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manfred99:
I searched other areas for this topic and couldn't find anything, if I am posting in the wrong area, please point me in the right direction.

I recently purchased a very clean, well built example of a Foreplay II preamp with C4S upgrade, works very well, better sonics than my ASL preamp. But it does have a slight upper frequency buzz in both channels that comes through the speakers. I have viewed many posts in the archived Bottlehead forum about this problem and need some help in installing the snubbers which may(or may not)help alleviate the problem. I have changed tubes with several different sets, turned off all electrical devices on the circuit, ran a ground between the Foreplay and the amps(Dodd Audio mono blocks), removed the cable TV line. The hum remains. The hum does go away when preamp is turned off. The hum was not present with the ASL preamp.

Can anyone explain where the HV snubbers go in the preamp, and what parts do I need to at least try this. I do have soldering skills, though I would be better off looking at pics of the installed snubbers rather than try and decipher schematics.

An e-mail with pics would be of great help.
Tom
Portland, Oregon

Grainger49:
Before diving into this, are you certain that the problem arises in the preamp?  If it is a power supply induced noise you can turn the preamp off and before the capacitors discharge the buzz will stop.  That is, as soon as the switch is off the buzz will be gone.  Maybe it will be more apparent if you play some music and hear the buzz go away before the music fades out.

VoltSecond has a site with a lot of information on Legacy products.  This page has the HV Snubber on it, but the page also says filament snubber:

http://www.siteswithstyle.com/VoltSecond/foreplay_filament_snubber/Foreplay_filament_snubber.html

There is not a picture of the snubber on that page.  IIRC, it takes 2 - 5 terminal, terminal strips to construct the circuit.  These are still sold at RS.

manfred99:
When I turn the preamp off, the buzz immediately stops. So where do I find "RS".

Tom
Portland, Oregon

JC:
I expect he is referring to "Radio Shack".  If you look at the underside of your FP Chassis plate, you will see that the parts are connected to 5 position terminal strips.  They have these very same strips at Radio Shack, or something remarkably like them, that they sell in a package of 3 or 4, IIRC.  In the '274-xxxx' series of parts, I believe.  Useful for mounting snubber parts.

If the sound you are hearing is a "buzzy" sound with a fundamental of 120 Hertz, the snubber will put a big dent in it.  If it is more like a hum at 60 Hertz, that will require something else.

Sorry, I don't have a picture for you, but surely someone else does; there had to have been quite a large number of snubbers installed in Foreplay 2's back in the day.  If all else fails, ping forum member Wardsweb; he takes excellent pictures of his work, and I would have to think he made and FP 2 with snubber at some point!

Paul Joppa:
You might consider just replacing the UF4007 rectifier diodes with a pair of Cree Schottky diodes; the 600v ones should be sufficient. Schottkys don't have a reverse recovery spike, not even an ultra-fast one...

The virtue of this is that there is no modification of the circuit or layout to make.

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