HUGE channel imbalance

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Offline Tonydatigerr

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on: January 29, 2014, 01:16:54 PM
I am getting a lot of imbalance at all volume levels. The left channel seems to be at least twice as loud as the right. All my voltages and resistance checks came back correct - did I still do something wrong or do I need to let the tube warm up? Thanks in advance for the help!



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Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 01:39:04 PM
If the voltages are all OK, I'd suspect a bad solder joint - probably on the volume control, or at the headphone jack.

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Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 03:38:53 PM
Turns out there were a couple loose connections at the headphone jack.
I went back and checked the B voltages and they seem to be off.

B1: 141
B2: 158
B3: 140
B4: 90

edit: Right channel still quieter than left.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2014, 03:41:28 PM by Tonydatigerr »



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Reply #3 on: January 29, 2014, 05:02:17 PM
Hmm... just went to the windows sound settings to re-adjust for the temporary fix and noticed that I lose everything from the right channel when I turn the left down to 0, leaving the right channel at 100. So it appears that nothing is making it through the right channel?



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Reply #4 on: January 29, 2014, 06:54:30 PM
T1 also has 141V?

Is the LED at A8 glowing?

Are both halves of the 12AU7 glowing?

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Reply #5 on: January 29, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
Yes, T1 is also at 141V - it was 115V before I installed the 6080.

No, it is not.

Yes, both halves are glowing.



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Reply #6 on: January 29, 2014, 07:23:08 PM
If you remove the 6080, does it pop back down to 115V?  (My guess is that it does not)

This can happen if one of the connections that shorts A4/5 together isn't well soldered, if the wire going to A7 isn't well connected, if the ground connections at the volume control aren't well soldered, if the LED isn't well connected, and lastly if the wire going from T1 to A6 isn't well connected. 

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Reply #7 on: January 29, 2014, 08:51:18 PM
No, it goes up to 220. I just redid all the connections you listed and the 2nd LED is still not lighting up. It was actually lighting up a couple days ago, but then I felt like I had to go and "fix" a couple solder joints and guess I missed it up...

Here are pictures of my board in case there is something obvious that I am doing wrong:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iv9ly4axjp8tha5/IMG_20140130_001447.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/je3f3czhl3rx7a5/IMG_20140130_001455.jpg
« Last Edit: January 29, 2014, 09:18:42 PM by Tonydatigerr »



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Reply #8 on: January 30, 2014, 06:32:00 AM
I'd go over the list I posted.

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Reply #9 on: January 30, 2014, 09:26:38 AM
Is it ok that A4 + A5 is soldered like a giant blob (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4471f1b6my52r6e/IMG_20140130_122230.jpg) or do I need to remove the solder between them?



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Reply #10 on: January 30, 2014, 12:01:59 PM
They should be connected, by the wire that attaches to them being threaded through both terminals. The solder needn't be a big blob, but it probably won't hurt anything as long as it is not a cold joint. It should be very easy to reheat it to make sure that it has good continuity.

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Reply #11 on: January 30, 2014, 12:29:04 PM
If you remove the 6080, does it pop back down to 115V?  (My guess is that it does not)

This can happen if one of the connections that shorts A4/5 together isn't well soldered, if the wire going to A7 isn't well connected, if the ground connections at the volume control aren't well soldered, if the LED isn't well connected, and lastly if the wire going from T1 to A6 isn't well connected.

I triple checked all those connections and the 2nd LED has still not come on. Is there anything else that can cause this?



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Reply #12 on: January 30, 2014, 05:13:57 PM
You can test the LED with the diode function on your meter.

To get a feel for how it works, try measuring the one that you know works.  This is done while the LED is in the circuit, but with the amp unplugged and powered off. 

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Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 05:26:47 PM
Here are the voltages for every terminal with an expected voltage in the manual. I have denoted voltages that are off with a "*".

1 146 *
2 163
3 0
4 163
5 92
6 0
7 145  *
8 0
9 100
10 0
11 0
12 0
13 163
14 0
15 187
20 0
21 212

A

1 92
2 0
3 1.5
4 0
5 0
6 146   *
7 0
8 12   *
9 0

B

1 146    *
2 163
3 145    *
4 90
5 163
6 111
7 0    
8 0

and will do. I will get back to you with the results.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2014, 06:27:46 PM by Tonydatigerr »



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Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 06:26:36 PM
Hmm. even with the LED that I know work - I was not able to get a reading with the meter (testing with the leads in every possible position).