Tinnitus

[denti alligator]

Until recently, I had no issues with my hearing. Since my late 20s I’ve been careful to wear earplugs to loud concerts, and I never turn up the music so loud that it is even close to uncomfortable.

But I went to a concert five weeks ago that seems to have changed everything. It was a concert of classical Indian music, so I assumed (wrongly) that it wouldn’t be amplified. And when I saw there was amplification, I figured it wouldn’t be an issue, because, well, it’s Indian classical music! How loud can it get? Not that loud, actually, but there was something about the space and the PA system that really hurt my ears. A piercing hurt. Strangely, my wife and son, the former of whom is usually very sensitive to loud music, didn’t have the same reaction I did.

Which is a ringing in both ears. I assumed it would stop after a day or two. It’s been five weeks and no letup. I saw an audiologist today who basically said it would be permanent. I’m in mourning. I can no longer enjoy music, which has to compete with the ringing, and if it’s turned up even slightly above normal listening levels, hurts my ears and causes a kind of extra overtone ring.

I don’t know what to do. I’m seeing an ENT soon, but at this stage I’m both frustrated, mad, and very very sad. How could one concert lead to this, a concert that clearly didn’t both anyone else? Does this mean the time, money, and care I put into my audio system is now for nought?

I’m posting here I guess for some kind of support. I doubt I’m alone. How have you Bottleheaders dealt with hearing loss, damage, tinnitus, etc? Is there any hope?

[Doc B.]

I have a mild case a lot of the time (like right now). This may sound out in left field, but I have been getting theraputic massage for about a year now for my arthritis. In the process the therapist has been doing a lot of work on my neck. It seems to help reduce the tinnitus. I'm guessing maybe it relieves some stress on the vagus nerve or stimulates it, but I only know enough to be dangerous.

[ccmccull]

I have it. I'm in my early 50s and there wasn't an initiating event, I don't think. Here's what I've learned about my own, some might be useful for you. As you can see I'm still figuring it out after more than a year.

First, it really sucks. I feel for you.

Mine comes and goes, on a daily to weekly basis. I'll have a week of loud ringing, then a couple of days where I don't notice it at all.

I think it's related to sinus /inner ear / eustachian tube congestion. It's like it's a new symptom of the allergies I've had my whole life.

It's also related to neck and shoulder tension. I have this vibrating ball device made by theragun about the size of a softball which really helps loosen my neck muscles. And the standard neck stretches also help. I have read that some of these muscles go up and near the inner ear and can cause irritation when tense. This really helps me.

It's worse after doing upper body weight training. Likely due to straining neck and shoulders.

Environment and mood play a big factor. For example when I'm traveling on vacation it often goes away completely for the whole duration, days or weeks. I can't tell if it's because it's just a generally noisier environment than my fully treated listening room /home office I spend a lot of time in, or if it's lower stress, or a combination of both.

It's definitely worse in my treated (absorption panels) listening room than in the rest of the house.

I have a hepa filter whose fan noise can drown it out to some degree.

I do think it's attention related as well. I can definitely make it worse by paying attention to it, which means I can also make it better by trying to ignore it! Easier said than done, of course.

On the attention point, when listening to music the tinnitus  can be so distracting that I can't enjoy the music at all. But I also find that if I'm completely immersed in a particular recording, it can go away completely. Bliss. So in way it's forced me to try harder to get to that place we all strive for in my listening sessions

That's my experience so far. I was very discouraged at the start but I have figured out ways to manage. Hope this helps you.

[Larpy]

I've had tinnitus, primarily in my left ear, for decades.  I'm in my early 60s, and unfortunately I mistreated my ears throughout my 20s and 30s (frequent loud concerts, both as a spectator and a guitar player).  By my 40s I developed constant tinnitus.  It's never gone away but, and this is the hopeful part, it's either gotten better over the years or my brain has adjusted to it and allows me to tune much of it out.  If I listen for it, it's there 24/7, but much of the time I don't really notice it.

The brain is able to accommodate change astonishingly well.  I can no longer hear above 10K Hz (and at 10K my hearing sensitivity is down a good 20 dBs), but it hasn't changed my enjoyment of music.

I hope your hearing damage isn't permanent but if it is, don't despair:  give it some time and you're likely to find it gets subjectively better.

[denti alligator]

Thanks, everyone. My only hope is that my ears are still a bit sensitive, and I‘m hoping this is a sign they still need to heal. After healing, maybe the ringing will subside? I‘m eagerly awaiting my ENT visit.

[Paul Joppa]

TTS (Temporary Threshold Shift) can take as long as a few weeks to recover baseline hearing. Here's a review article from PubMed:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4988324/

[Jay]

google "NAC and tinnitus".  NAC is n-acetyl-L-cysteine
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30653365/