Final Voltage Check

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on: July 20, 2023, 05:50:50 AM
Hello,

I have completed all the steps of the EROS 2 and am doing the final voltage check. I am not getting the correct voltage on OC, OD, OkA, OkB, OkC, or OkD. I have uploaded a picture of the board to see if there is anything you notice I did wrong.

Thanks,

Brad



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Reply #1 on: July 20, 2023, 06:27:00 AM
For every solder joint on that board that doesn't have an LED, you need to use a lot more heat to get the solder to flow into the through hole on the board.  It also helps greatly to actually post the voltages you're seeing at each terminal.

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Reply #2 on: July 20, 2023, 06:48:17 AM
Hi Paul,

I am getting the following voltages from each terminal
IA = 217.8
IB = 220.3
OA = 215.2
OB = 140.1
OC = 100.2
OD = 102.5
OkA = 6.86
OkB = .4
OkC = 25.7
OkD = 4.7

What temperature should i set my solder to? I have been using around 650 degrees but my solder can go up to 850 degrees.



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Reply #3 on: July 20, 2023, 07:01:20 AM
850 degrees.

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Reply #4 on: July 20, 2023, 09:38:59 AM
Hi Paul,

I have re-soldered every joint on the C4S board and am still getting the same voltage readings as listed below. Any thoughts where I should go next?



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Reply #5 on: July 20, 2023, 03:12:08 PM
Post another photo of the PC board?

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Reply #6 on: July 21, 2023, 09:48:20 AM
Hi Paul,

I removed all of the wires to be able to remove the C4S board and flip it upside down so I could re-solder all of the holes. I have attached a picture for you to see. I then re-soldered the wires in the correct holes and ran the voltage check Here is what I'm getting now.

IA = 287.7
IB = 288.1
OA = 286.9
OB = 286.6
OC = 208.2
OD = 208.1
OkA = .5
OkB = .4
OkC = 3.51
OkD = 20.0

Any thoughts on what to do now?



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Reply #7 on: July 21, 2023, 09:58:41 AM
Double check that all of your tubes are glowing. The EF86 tubes will be hard to see the glow from. A very dark room is helpful.

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Reply #8 on: July 21, 2023, 10:17:21 AM
Hi Dan,

None of the tubes are lighting up. Not sure why that is. I was at least getting the 12AX7 to light up before. I just removed the fuse and checked the volts and I'm getting 0. It looks like it may have blown.



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Reply #9 on: July 24, 2023, 12:45:33 PM
Hey Brad, after our conversation today I picked PBs brains a bit about what you were measuring on the heater supply. He suggested that maybe either the 124 ohm Rset1 resistor or the 499 ohm Rset2 resistor has the wrong value installed, or perhaps they are correct but need a bit of a solder reflow. Makes sense and I should have thought to mention that. So you might have a look at those. They are just inboard of the LM1085 chip.

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Reply #10 on: July 25, 2023, 01:38:05 PM
Hi Dan,

I re-soldered all 3 boards to make sure they all have solid solder on every joint. I installed all of the tubes and they are still not lighting up. I checked the voltages and am getting the following readings:

IA = 301.9
IB = 301.9
OA = 299.5
OB = 299.6
OC = 210.5
OD = 206
OkA = .81
OkB = 6.9
OkC = 3.27
OkD = 20.1

These readings are all way higher than the last readings. I'm sure where to check from here. Let me know your thoughts.



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Reply #11 on: July 25, 2023, 02:56:34 PM
If the tubes aren't glowing, the high voltage readings don't really matter nor do they mean anything.  You have to focus on getting 6.3V DC across the + and - pads on the low voltage output section of the power supply board.  Until that is correct, the tubes will not light up and the high voltage readings will be wacky.

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Reply #12 on: July 26, 2023, 03:48:46 AM
Hi Paul,

I am getting a reading of 3.12v & 1.86v at the 6.3v DC. Thoughts on where I should look next?



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Reply #13 on: July 26, 2023, 04:07:46 AM
Take the power supply PC board off and send photos of the top and bottom.  Also triple check that the 1085 regulator is installed instead of a 5731A transistor, as they both look similar.

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Reply #14 on: July 26, 2023, 04:13:39 AM
Hi Paul,

Here is a picture of the top of the board. I'm hoping you notice something here before I go an un-solder all the wires to be able to show the underside. Let me know thoughts.

Best,
Brad