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Title: Voltage check problem [resolved]
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 06, 2023, 12:00:31 AM
Hi all,

I recently build crack for my sennheiser. During build, terminal 2,4,7,9 have higher voltage but similar reading of the pair. An a constant hum even without input when tested with headphone.
My input voltage is 225. Here is my DC voltage reading:

1. 95v
2. 233v
3. 0v
4. 234v
5. 88v
6. 0v
7. 135v
8. 0v
9. 132v
10. 0v
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Paul Birkeland on July 06, 2023, 04:56:52 AM
What is the AC voltage coming out of your wall and how did you wire the power transformer?
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 06, 2023, 05:20:47 AM
Powerline test result is 225v, then I follow instruction in page 26 for 210v to 225v. The official is 240v in my country.
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Paul Birkeland on July 06, 2023, 05:23:19 AM
I would recheck that line voltage.  I suspect you have closer to 240V coming out of the wall, and that is pushing things up a bit.
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 06, 2023, 05:37:26 AM
Should I re-wire the transformer to 240v? I tested power outlet around my house, the reading is 225v
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Paul Birkeland on July 06, 2023, 05:48:11 AM
You only have to move one connection of one wire to change to the 225-235V, and I would suggest giving that a try. Just move the red wire from power transformer terminal 17 to power transformer terminal 18 and recheck your voltages.
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 06, 2023, 02:39:50 PM
I fixed that, the dc voltage drop to 215 - 220 v rage for terminal 2,4 and 125-130v for terminal 7,9

*change to 235-245v setting, the dc voltage on 2,4 reading drop to 195-200vdc and terminal 7, 9 drop to 115 to 120vdc range
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 07, 2023, 02:34:37 PM
Is it safe for use? And there is a hum even when not connected to source
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Paul Birkeland on July 07, 2023, 04:34:29 PM
I would leave it set for 235-245.

With no source connected and the volume pot turned all the way up, there will be noise.  Is there noise with the volume control turned all the way down?  If so, you likely have a loose connection or a solder joint or two that need to be reflowed.
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 07, 2023, 04:50:17 PM
With volume all way down, there still hum. Is there certain location that i need to look out for?
And should I proceed with the speedball?
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Paul Birkeland on July 07, 2023, 04:52:01 PM
If it sounds more like a buzzing noise, that's typically a loose power supply capacitor.  If it's a deep hum, that is more likely to be loose hardware or a loose solder joint.  You can also post some build photos and maybe we can spot something.
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 07, 2023, 05:26:33 PM
Here some picture of the build
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Doc B. on July 07, 2023, 06:08:49 PM
For starters you need to twist the green heater supply wires and braid the red, white and black signal wires from the RCA jacks to the volume pot. The instructions are detailed in the assembly manual. Either of those not being properly dressed could be a reason for excessive hum so they should be corrected first. Once that is done if the hum persists we can start to look at other possibilities.

I have attached a photo of a partially complete Crack amp I am currently assembling so that you can have an idea of what the wiring layout should look like.
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 07, 2023, 07:08:53 PM
I braided the wire, but the hum still persist on the right channel only
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 07, 2023, 08:59:16 PM
Resolder some point, the Led does not light up. Replace the Led in the speedball kit. The led lights up then turn dark
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Paul Birkeland on July 08, 2023, 06:10:14 AM
I see a 22 ohm resistor in your power supply that is the wrong value.  Putting the correct parts in here will fix the high B+ issue that you had before and drop the noise floor down closer to where it should be (which will further be lowered by twisting the green wires and dealing with the unbraided input wiring).
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Doc B. on July 08, 2023, 06:35:46 AM
Did you receive that 22 ohm resistor in your kit? If so we may have sent the wrong part and we will replace it. Please check the value of the other large white resistor too.
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 08, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Yes, I received it in my kit. And I'm not checking it before.
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on July 08, 2023, 08:18:45 PM
how about LED not lights up suddenly?
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Paul Birkeland on July 09, 2023, 04:48:18 AM
LEDs not lighting up suddenly will mean that the DC voltages on terminals 1-10 are no longer correct and you would want to post those numbers in order for us to help you determine what has gone wrong.

You will definitely want to get some 270 ohm 5W resistors in there, feel free to drop an e-mail to replacementparts(at)bottlehead(dot)com and we can get some sent to you.
Title: Re: Voltage check problem
Post by: Hazim_hatta on August 11, 2023, 08:57:39 PM
Just have time to rework on the crack, everything works perfectly, thank you all