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General Category => Tech Tools => Topic started by: 4krow on March 18, 2012, 05:12:52 PM
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Do many of you here use solder flux, and if so, do you recommend it only for desoldering?
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Greg, I use liquid flux mostly on my desoldering wick, but I will use it when soldering some components on PCBs. Heatsinks and other large components that need a little help geting the solder to flow. I try not to over use it, because you do have to clean up well after use.
Cheers,
Shawn
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98% of today's solders include flux in it. I have used many solders and the only time I used flux was getting my Plumbing merit badge in Scouts sometime in the early 60s.
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I've only had to use it when soldering SMD chips, putting down a little bit before soldering quickens the flow and makes things a lot easier.
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HF9, That is exactly what I am doing. Of course, I have learned the hard way first, and it gets ugly unless you can make that solder jump off quick. I have been using a desoldering pen with varying results. And I notice that some solder wick is better than others. Finally, keeping a clean tip and and little solder on it helps. I did buy an unusual product from RS. It is a tip cleaner/tinning combined into one. Seems to be 'tinning' set in a waxy hard paste. So far I have to say that I like it very much. I am doing everything I can to get some old ic's out of a circuit without too many casualties.
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Greg, the tip tinner/cleaners do work well, but be aware that repeated use will shorten the life of your tips.
Cheers,
Shawn
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Yeah I think that RS one probably has sal ammoniac in it. It does indeed begin to eat the tip after a while.
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Greg - all good advice, I would just add that the 60/40 is the way to go. I learned the hard way to stay away from the silver bearing stuff.
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Man, this all helps. I just ordered some 'Wonder Solder'. Not much, just 20'. I will heed your advice about the RS cleaner, and the silver solder. If something seems to good to be true...
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I use paste flux when tinning stranded wires so that I can then bend them into a good mechanical fit before the final solder. I little on the wire goes a long way and usually burns off all residue. Its also very useful when soldering wire into the centre pins of RCA connectors. It really lets the solder get drawn into the pin with the wire for a good electrical connection. The best solder I have is a left over supply of Kester SN63. It flows good and fast. Unfortunately it is Lead bearing as well so no longer easy to find but heck I have around 50Lbs I bought back in the day.
Silver bearing solder is good for strong bonds but my experience says it uses too much heat to flow and is not the best for sensitive components. With SN63 I have never cooked a component yet. (Touch wood)
Cheers;
Mike
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Mike, I guess I have no choice but to get some good flux. I am trying to desolder some components from a delicate circuit board, and the solder just needs a little help to flow properly. I am glad that there is good information here. BTW, 'Wonder solder with it's microtechnology dramatically changes the sound of your stereo, and your feelings too.' Get some now he he
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Sorry I can't resist this but; Is it the wonder solder that improves the sound or is it because the user inhales the fumes!!!!
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This stuff is good for SMD work:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_1586015_-1
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Grufti;
That's what I like about the BH guys, you get al sorts of valuable information and leads on products and suppliers. I like their dispenser method and the fact that it is "no clean", I'll be ordering some to try out.
Cheers
Mike
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Look at the other ChipQuik product at Jameco as well. They have a few that work well for SMD rework. Just search for ChipQuik ... and as usual the commercial disclaimer: I have no interest whatsoever in ChipQuik or Jameco, no investment, no kick backs, nothing.
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I'll second the ChipQuik, other than having a Hot air rework system it is the best method for removing smd components.
Cheers,
Shawn
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Many Many thanks guys! This is great. I just ordered the chipquik kit to try out. I have murdered too many circuits/boards, and I want to 'change my ways'. The soldering station was a big help, and now this. I don't work with ic's because i love 'em. It's just a fact of life with some circuits, and therefor unavoidable. I much prefer point to point, and that is the way that my amp is. ok, I'll quit now before I ramble.
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Well, I have used ChipQuik on 20+ ic removals, and have ordered more. The flux has helped with other circuit desoldering, and whatever the price, it is worth it! Can't thank you enough grifti, as desoldering was getting to be a concern. I am using solder wick with the product and put some flux on it too. The solder wicks like water to a sponge! Amazing.
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Thank you, Greg. I'm glad I was able to help.