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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ironbut on July 12, 2012, 08:47:06 AM
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When I was growing up, at least when it came to drums, it was all about Buddy Rich and Gene Kruppa.
Of all my friends who were playing drums, I can't recall a single one who didn't didn't take sides in this "who's the best" argument.
Well, I was browsing through Youtube drum videos cause I was having a hard time picking out kick drums in some tunes and came across this monster of a drum solo from Rich.
If you start getting burned out, be sure and stick around for the snare drum/speed display toward the end. Scary!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k&feature=related
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Here's my favorite Buddy Rich vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BmeBfV-O4
And here's a pretty great video of my drum hero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfPTBGLkbzM
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Wow. Great Corsano video!
Youtube is such a fantastic resource!
The sound is all over the place but it is what it is (sometimes I use vintage console emulations if I'm gonna do any serious listening).
Thanks for the link!
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I was a drummer in the 60s. I'm a Buddy Rich guy. I also remember some live Cream where Ginger Baker must have had 3 or 4 hands.
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Man, more fine memories. Buddy was pure excitement and energy!
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I just have to add one thing, if my system can't reproduce drums accurately, it's time to trade. Percussion makes 'the beat go on'.
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I just have to add one thing, if my system can't reproduce drums accurately, it's time to trade. Percussion makes 'the beat go on'.
Just a little background info;
I'm doing a bunch of ear training and one of the tough things is to separate low electric bass from the kick drum on some tracks. Unless the mix was done with the bass "ducking" (with the side chain of a compressor) , eq'ed to make space for the kick or otherwise mixed to keep the kick distinct, it takes a lot of practice for non drum playing folks to listen to just the kick and not get swept away by the bass line.
The more I listen to drums like someone who's learning learning how to play them, the easier it is to hear each drum and the way it "sits" in the mix.
So in this case at least, it's really more of a matter of how the track was mixed than a systems ability to resolve the two.
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That is something that I never would have thought of. What I was thinking about concerning my statement, was more about the transient response needed to reproduce snare drum shots, or the hollowness of a tom-tom. Bass drum timbre is not something that I often hear, come to think of it. I guess I just figured it had something to do with the drum set. As far as bass guitar, nothing pleases me more than to hear harmonics that it has. Too many muddy recordings out there, and speaker capable of musically reproducing bass are in the minority.
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Greg,
I think a "trap" drum set is set up differently today. All the bass drums seem to say "Whup, whup, whup, whup."
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Thanks for the links gentlemen, very cool stuff.
Grainger, thanks for the info on the soldering tips. And I thought I was the only one who never changed tips!
I was at several concerts where Ginger Baker was doing his thing. Which makes me very old!!!!
When I saw an old friend recently she commented "how did we get this old?" Luck was the only answer I could come up with!
You Tube surprises me, there are some way cool vids there!
John
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John,
You are welcome !
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Cream was the first big name band I ever saw. I was 13 and my mom had ta drive a friend and I to the concert.
Ginger is amazing!
I really liked his later stuff too.
"Coward of the County" is a great cd.
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You all might like the Ginger Baker Trio recording(s?), with the unmistakable electric guitar work of Bill Frisell and Charlie Haden on acoustic bass, 1993. Liner notes describe an extended time away from drumming for Baker prior to the Trio formation. Sounds like he got back in the swing of things.