Bottlehead Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Paully on September 30, 2012, 10:14:07 AM
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Truly amazing, of course, because Beatles reissues are such a rare phenomenon. But by now I am sure most Bottleheads are aware of the impending release. So who here aren't going to be able to contain themselves and are just going to have to have it?
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I've been eyeing it since the first announcement but have not reserved a set yet.
-- Jim
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No mono, no buy.
Why do this big record companies not understand? (Well, at least we got the mono CD remasters.)
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Ok, Paully and I discussed this. They did not go back to the Original Master Ttapes. Hmmm.
Sam, listening to Number 9 in mono will not let you experience the ear to ear ping-pong that the fab four intended. (that is tongue in cheek) Yet I do feel that the later stereo mixes done by the lads themselves are what they intended.
However, the early stereo "mixes" with all instruments in one speaker and the Fab Four voices in the other speaker cries out for a mono switch.
I probably won't be buying. And never the boxed set, just those that I liked the best.
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Sam,
That is definitely one concern for me as well, but the other is that I really wonder if the sound will be so changed (even if it is "improved") from the original that it would not be the same anymore.
It's a lot of money to spend for some pretty big questions.
On the other hand, my wife may want it no matter what. I know I certainly have a long wish list ahead of these.
-- Jim
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What the band intended up to the White Album is definitely mono. That's how the records were recorded. End of story. With the Whoite Album you've got both (not sure what the story was there, but the mixes are different). Then there are the last two, which were recorded in stereo.
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I read someone talking about them, or maybe Grainger told me, and they were made from the 24/196 digital files which were used to make the CDs and those files were made from the original tapes? If I understood properly the CDs were a lower bit rate of course which means the records will be the highest resolution media available by using those digital files? If that is true it seems like die hard Beatles fans are going to want it.
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For Xmas a couple of years ago I got a little green aluminum apple, like the logo. The stem is a handle for a flash drive, it contains the whole reissue in redbook and the 24 bit files along with some video. As I have all of their library in original issue vinyl, I don't think I'll buy any of the reissue discs.
Cheers,
Shawn
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Sam,
Number Nine is on The Beatles (the white album).
We are not in disagreement.
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Sam,
Number Nine is on The Beatles (the white album).
We are not in disagreement.
I know. I'm one of the few who do not feel that track takes away from the record. In fact, I've always preferred sides 3 & 4 to 1 & 2.
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I guess its the vinyl stamping of the 2009 remasters. $400! I bought all of the 2009 remasters on CD, I'm glad I'm not into vinyl!
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#9...#9...#9...........
Careful with that ax Eugene 8)
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I thought when you played it backward it said, "Turn me on dead man." I had a room mate in my second year of college who had a RTR tape deck that could play tracks backward.
But what is on this one album would be a whole 'nother thread!
Number....................9, Number
9, Number.................9, Number
9, Number.................9, Number
9, Number.................9, Number
9, Number.................9... etc.
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I'm with Grainger on this one... I used to spin the record backwards by hand and definitely heard "turn me on dead man" and that was without anyone telling me what it said. I only knew that it was supposed to say something.
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John,
Pink Floyd?
BTW, for any of you Eno fans out there there is a whole backwards track on the Eno, Moebius, Rodelius album -- I did once play it backwards by recording on a tape with a tascam portastudio and then flipping the tape. Don't have a clue what it said now, but I do remember it not being out of line for Eno lyrics :-).
-- Jim
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Jim - At the time, I dont think we had pure enough acid to 'get into' Eno. It was over my head. Still is. - I have just recently really got my head around Dylan and Lou Reed. I now enjoy that NYC post beat-nick stuff. Maybe I was a bit too young in the early 60's.
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Hey Jim, you got it...John
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Don't have a clue what it said now, but I do remember it not being out of line for Eno lyrics :-).
Don't know the "Moebius" but from 'Baby's On Fire"
"Baby's on fire
Better throw her in the water
Look at her laughing
Like a heifer to the slaughter
Baby's on fire
And all the laughing boys are bitching
Waiting for photos
Oh the plot is so bewitching."
So...what WOULD be out of line for Eno lyrics exactly?
I was/am a Brian Eno fan but more into the minimalist stuff like "No Pussy Footing" and the Discreet and Ambient recordings.
...And no audiophile record collection is complete without "The Portsmouth Sinfonia Plays the Popular Classics".
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Wanderer,
I want, want, want a good copy of the pportsmouth Sinfonia!!! I had a copy, not in terribly great shape, but sold it with my old collection. I love that album and would love to find another copy.
Did you know that one time both Brian Eno and Sting played in the portsmouth sinfonia?
As for Eno lyrics, that's exactly it -- somewhat dark, out there, etc. is what I meant.
-- Jim
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We've got a new thread now, I guess, on Eno.
I've long wanted to hear the Portsmith Sinfonia album!
Another Green World is, for me, a masterpiece. Pure magic.
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Sam,
Agreed on AGW -- and in general I consider Brian Eno to be a real innovator and out of the box musical thinker.
-- Jim