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Bottlehead Kits => Legacy Kit Products => Quickie => Topic started by: underdawg on February 19, 2013, 05:24:21 AM

Title: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 19, 2013, 05:24:21 AM
I am wondering and trying to find the shaft size for the quickie knobs to source different looking knobs for the quickie I bought last week and waiting on its arrival.
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: jimiclow on February 19, 2013, 10:05:25 AM
It's 1/4".
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 19, 2013, 01:32:12 PM
Thank you but most vendors are listing them in millimeters which is what I am looking for if possible
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: kgoss on February 19, 2013, 01:55:07 PM
1/4" = 6.35mm
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 19, 2013, 02:36:26 PM
tym
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 19, 2013, 02:37:42 PM
now i see why what comes with the kit, nothing else avaialable on the bay.....
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Doc B. on February 19, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Try some electronics suppliers like Mouser and DigiKey. 1/4" is a very common shaft size.
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 19, 2013, 02:57:14 PM
ok i will ty
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: earwaxxer on February 19, 2013, 03:21:34 PM
Radio shack has them - cheap
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 20, 2013, 03:42:46 AM
I ll check the shack thanks
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 21, 2013, 03:44:47 PM
OK update on upgraded parts.
I have not recieved the quickie but here is the upgrades I have purchased so far.
PCJJ upgrade card with quickie
Vintage NOS Noble Dual 100K Potentiometer- Alps Blue Beauty replacement
Pair N-Cap Neglex MKP 2.2uF 800V Capacitor HIFI Audiophile Grade Germany
2X ROE ROEDERSTEIN 2.2uf 63v Axial Capacitor FOR AUDIO
2x NOS US Navi JAN CKR 3S4 VT-174 DL92 Battery Radio tube
2pcs KENDEIL 100V 1000UF CAPACITOR AUDIO
Anti-vibration Pads/Isoblocks for Audiophile Equip. 2"X2"X7/8" (set of four)
1 Quart QT GT Liqui-Damp X Brush On Liquid Audio Sound Dampening
I have top line rca jacks
Batteries from radio shack industrial grade.

I hope this works out

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Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Wanderer on February 22, 2013, 03:39:28 AM
My suggesting - worth all you are paying for it - is to build it bone stock first. Listen to it for a number of hours - the caps or whatever do seem to need time to break in - THEN do the upgrades.

I tried both the chokes and PCJJ and the PCJJ was a BIG up over stock and even the  choke mod.   
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 22, 2013, 03:43:03 AM
I have been reading and I thought you either use the pcjj or the chokes, are you saying to add both to it one at time or either or?
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Grainger49 on February 22, 2013, 03:45:28 AM
Dawg, we say it that way in Georgia, before you swap out the caps you can break them in:

Fast Break In Post (http://www.bottlehead.com/smf/index.php/topic,80.msg286.html#msg286)
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 22, 2013, 04:04:21 AM
thank you for the break in link , sometimes I use them as power supply temp bypass filter caps,or I use capacitor tester to break em in.
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Wanderer on February 22, 2013, 04:28:32 AM
I have been reading and I thought you either use the pcjj or the chokes, are you saying to add both to it one at time or either or?

One or the other. You can use chokes or PJCC mod, not both at once.

They both increase the gain but the PJCC sounded "smoother" to me.

Your Milage May Vary   
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 22, 2013, 04:55:17 AM
ok thanks ill stay with the pcjj then
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: 4krow on February 22, 2013, 06:55:27 AM
Ok, maybe I'm just lazy, but I don't remember seeing a price for the chokes. Would be a simpler install, not that pjjs is a problem.
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: 4krow on February 22, 2013, 06:57:28 AM
pjccs     sooooory
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Wanderer on February 22, 2013, 08:05:34 AM
Ok, maybe I'm just lazy, but I don't remember seeing a price for the chokes. Would be a simpler install, not that pjjs is a problem.

Thread on the chokes here:
http://www.bottlehead.com/smf/index.php/topic,70.0.html

You source the Hammond chokes from an outside supplier. Not expensive.

As I said I find the PJCCS better but others prefer the plate chokes. Worth a try.   
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: earwaxxer on February 22, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
Here's the choke link
http://angela.com/hammondchoke156c.aspx
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: galyons on February 22, 2013, 03:26:01 PM

Batteries from radio shack industrial grade.


Now there is an oxymoron if I have ever seen one!!   ;)

Quickies are fun and perform to an amazing level!  Radio Shack...not so much!  ;D

Cheers,
Geary
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 22, 2013, 03:29:38 PM
I was just trying to find reasonable batteries is all, and at least the shack changes the stock frequently. :D
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Paul Birkeland on February 22, 2013, 06:59:39 PM
FYI - a 47uF-100uF at 6+V will work for the cathode bypass capacitors.
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 23, 2013, 02:12:28 AM
why such a high value capacitor, normally I bypass power supply caps with .1 to 1 uf caps?
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Paul Birkeland on February 23, 2013, 05:02:37 AM
A bypass capacitor implies that it's bypassing a larger capacitor. 

The capacitor across the cathode resistor is there to act as a short for AC on the filament, removing degenerative feedback that would otherwise be there.

The cathode bypass cap also stabilizes the bias point, though this becomes unnecessary with the PJCSS upgrade IMO.

The size of the cathode bypass cap must be sufficient to offer the same "short" across all audio frequencies and then some.  The 1000uF cap we put in the last Quickie was used because we already had it, the new Quickie uses a 150uF capacitor that we added to our inventory for the BeePre.

-PB
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Grainger49 on February 23, 2013, 06:57:02 AM
The above post is an example of Bottlehead's business acumen.  Stocking a new part costs money.  Until it is necessary you don't do it. 
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 23, 2013, 01:24:36 PM
so based on 1000 uf and 150 uf, I assume since I just ordered one its coming with 150 uf caps, so I have some nice mundorf 390 electrolytics that should work ok?
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 23, 2013, 01:42:40 PM
so based on 1000 uf and 150 uf, I assume since I just ordered one its coming with 150 uf caps, so I have some nice mundorf 390 electrolytics that should work ok?
The caps I have are bipolar 390ufd 63 volt, but I am not sure what side is the negative either, I feel stupid being in electronics 25 years and cant tell, tried to google but mundorfs site couldnt tell me.Anyone know if they will work and which side is the negative?
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Grainger49 on February 23, 2013, 02:12:25 PM
You mean there is no stripe on the Mundorf?
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Paul Joppa on February 23, 2013, 04:22:24 PM
Bipolar electrolytics are just that - no polarity, either end can be negative. They do have a reputation of sounding better than polarized electrolytics.
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Paul Birkeland on February 23, 2013, 05:21:29 PM
A 390uF/63V cap will work well, and the new layout has more room for such adventures.

A bipolar cap doesn't technically have a positive and negative side, just hook them up as you like (but be consistent if there happens to be two different lead lengths).

-PB
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 24, 2013, 02:37:08 AM
Thank you paul and cauc I rememebered finally, hence then name , bi, both ways. I did find nos nobles volume controls and they are stereo but each side has 4 posts instead of 3. Any idea's?
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 24, 2013, 02:38:51 AM
You mean there is no stripe on the Mundorf?
on these no there isnt, but we figured it out.the leads are the same size also. but since these are bi polar, bi, both ways.
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: Paul Birkeland on February 24, 2013, 08:35:03 AM
Thank you paul and cauc I rememebered finally, hence then name , bi, both ways. I did find nos nobles volume controls and they are stereo but each side has 4 posts instead of 3. Any idea's?

I think a pot with 4 posts may have a tap for loudness, you'll probably have to use some clip leads and test it out and see how it should be hooked up.
Title: Re: Quickie preamp
Post by: underdawg on February 24, 2013, 12:34:39 PM
Thank you paul and cauc I rememebered finally, hence then name , bi, both ways. I did find nos nobles volume controls and they are stereo but each side has 4 posts instead of 3. Any idea's?

I think a pot with 4 posts may have a tap for loudness, you'll probably have to use some clip leads and test it out and see how it should be hooked up.
ok when it comes in ill meesage you with measurements