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Title: burnt out resistors
Post by: coors on March 20, 2013, 04:45:59 PM
Hi
I started to experience microphonics through the headphone plug then some loud popping sounds.
When I checked the unit the 2 resistors , 2.49 k value ones, where brown and burned up.  I did not see the message to connect the unused terminal tips to ground until recently.
Do all I need to do is replace those resistors and then ground the unused terminal tips or am I missing something else.
The music still plays fine through it before I turned it off to troubleshoot
Thanks
Sam
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: Paul Birkeland on March 20, 2013, 05:33:09 PM
That is a very, very bad sign.  How do the 100uF capacitors on 6/7 and 9/10 look? 

I'd do a quick voltage check and let us know if there are any anomalies. 
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: coors on March 21, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
The Capacitors look fine, no bulging or lengthening.

Voltage check, everything checks out fine
The higher voltages were
T15=207 volts
T21=234 volts
I suspect this is fine

On the ring terminal to the TRS headphone jack I get 0V-12V-0
Whats next?
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: Paul Birkeland on March 21, 2013, 04:09:48 PM

On the ring terminal to the TRS headphone jack I get 0V-12V-0


Can you clarify those measurements a bit?
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: coors on March 21, 2013, 05:32:33 PM


Final check
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: Paul Birkeland on March 21, 2013, 05:35:25 PM
Hmm, it sounds like the amplifier is operating properly, can you post a pic of the resistors?  They really shouldn't turn brown unless the coupling caps short, the 2.49K resistor dissipates a paltry 0.06 Watts for less than a second during startup, then much less than that.
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: coors on March 21, 2013, 06:21:27 PM
I did measure them and the top one measures
2.45 and the bottom 2.44
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: coors on March 21, 2013, 06:23:17 PM
I forgot to add that the top resistor, if you look closely has a ellipiitcal defect in it. This was caused by me gently probing it and a piece chipped off

Sam
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: Paul Birkeland on March 22, 2013, 06:34:38 AM
Having burned a few of those 2.49K resistors in non-Crack related experiments, I can attest that those resistors are not burned, though they do have a strange oxidized look to them.

I wouldn't worry about it.

-PB
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: adamct on March 22, 2013, 07:30:37 AM
I suspect this is what happens when you smoke your Crack...  ;D ::) :P :-X :'(

[Ducks to avoid flying pieces of rotten vegetables]
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: coors on March 22, 2013, 09:14:58 AM
Any thoughts on what would then be causing
The problem?   I know it is not the headphones since I also have a SEX amp and do not have the same problem
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: Paul Birkeland on March 22, 2013, 01:28:34 PM
It looks more like a chemical deposition, like solvents from paint or super glue.
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: Doc B. on March 22, 2013, 01:34:18 PM
I agree with PB, they look like they got coated with flux smoke or super glue vapor rather than looking burnt. The joint where the two resistors join together at the jack terminal is saturated with flux. I would be inclined to reflow that joint and get a good shiny solder fillet in the joint. It could have something to do with the filmy coating on the resistors.
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: adamct on March 22, 2013, 03:21:31 PM
If the problem is microphonics and popping sounds, isn't it more likely the problem is the tube, rather than anything with the amp? (Though I agree about the caked-on flux.)
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: Grainger49 on March 23, 2013, 01:30:56 AM
Coors,

The resistances you read on the headphone jack are good.  What solder are you using?  Is it a Kester or a "designer" solder?
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: coors on March 24, 2013, 03:33:18 PM
I was using Cardas solder.  Anyway I re soldered the area and did connect the terminals to ground and now all is good,  thanks for all of the help. 
It must have been excess flux not allowing a good connection and producing a short?  Good eyes by the way diagnosing the problem with the photo
Now on to add the Speedball!

Sam
Title: Re: burnt out resistors
Post by: Grainger49 on March 25, 2013, 12:08:44 AM
Cardas is what I use.  I'm surprised at the obvious flux seen in the pictures.