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Bottlehead Kits => Legacy Kit Products => Reduction => Topic started by: dacatchpole on November 16, 2013, 05:26:39 PM
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I recently completed the Reduction kit (first diy effort) and the build went well. I wanted to see if there is a generally accepted break-in time? I have approx. 20-25 hours on the unit and it has seemed to plateau, but there still seems to be a slight veiling and homogeneity to the sound (especially noticeable on woodwinds). Is this something that I can expect to dissipate with time and, if not, what changes/upgrades would you suggest to address this?
Also, I want to congratulate the Bottlehead team on a really well put together kit. The instructions were easy to follow and it was a lot of fun to do.
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Give it 100 hours and if you're still not satisfied then try some different tubes.
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Yes. And as always with BH kits, the best upgrade is the house upgrade : Integration.
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I would agree with Rob. But if you still hear veiling at 50+ hours order some of the USSR Military surplus tubes. They are clear and well detailed. Not to mention the extra bracing makes them less microphonic, and I think adds to the depth/width of the soundstage.
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I would agree with Rob. But if you still hear veiling at 50+ hours order some of the USSR Military surplus tubes. They are clear and well detailed. Not to mention the extra bracing makes them less microphonic, and I think adds to the depth/width of the soundstage.
It's funny you mention this, as these are what we have been shipping the kits with lately.
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Hmm, must be something else. I really love mine in my Eros. Loved them in my Seduction too.
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I was just thinking that you're veiling is maybe coming from a bad match between your cartridge and the Reduction. BH says that the Reduction has been designed for carts with around 5mV of output. I have a denon dl 110 HOMC. With an output of around 2mV, it was a little bit on the low side with the stock 36db gain. It's far better with the Integration and its 40db of gain. Maybe it's also a loading problem. The Reduction has a 47k input impedance. Some carts prefer lower loading, for instance though a step-up transformer, and it affects the sound.
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IMHO any critical listening should only come after approx 100 hours of break in time.
Are you using the Integration upgrade? Constant current sources make a big difference in the areas you mentioned. Especially in phono pre-amps.
http://www.bottlehead.com/store.php/products/integration-upgrade-for-reduction-phono-preamp (http://www.bottlehead.com/store.php/products/integration-upgrade-for-reduction-phono-preamp)