Bottlehead Forum
General Category => Music => Topic started by: Chris on December 21, 2013, 07:36:07 AM
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YES!!! Boston has a new album out..... PTL.... Our beautiful G so graciously gave me what I already had many a year ago (the original Boston CBS half speed mastered) that I so IGNORANTLY traded for the "perfect forever" sound of CD many a year ago as well... And now, we are graced yet again with new material..This one being after Brad's NOT understandable suicide... However, I understand, he still will be on some of the tracks.....
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Can I beat these moronic wankers up?? Is it possible?? I HATE people who are NOBODY and surely NOT the designers of audio products NOR are they CREATORS of ANY Boston material , HOWEVER, SOMEHOW they feel entitled to review and THINK that people are going to care WTF they think about the new Boston album?? As if someone like WE HAVENT lived through the era as well... Whooaa.. I am sorry, got to cool the engines.. :)... UNFORTUNATELY, the younger generations than I, just maybe listening and trusting these whoevers.. because?? They are on the INTERNET ONLY!!! These guys super got on my nerves, I DO very much apologize.. Chris out...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9Xn6R51g0ws...
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But, Chris, is it available on Vinyl?
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Yes it is my friend... SoundStage Direct is selling it "pre order" in 180g vinyl, 2 lps... but get this...for 35 bucks... :o, maybe want to audition first... Sample on Amazon... OR just fall down on the floor looking like the cutest puppy to your wife and maybe she will get it for you for christmas!!... Either , because you look sooo cute , OR to stop you from being so weird.. Either way. it works the same....:)
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That is not bad for 2 LPs. I consider $20 per LP the going price.
But I will sample them on Amazon.
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FWIW, I already love it on first listen... LOVE the lyrics from Tom to Brad... "For what it is worth, I never wanted to see you walk away. heaven on earth should be enough".... Ir is my speculation ONLY that Tom was thinking of Brad...
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And yes, you are right G... IF it is good and we like it, the price of $35 is fair.. and I will add another $35 just to not see you roll around like a puppy in front of your wife!! :)
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I heard the CD at a friends house. The older stuff was WAY better. The sound production is amateurish and whats up with the drum mix? I'm a big fan of Boston. I used to go see them all the time when I lived on the east coast and I have several vinyl, CD's and some Hi Res recordings from them that I love. I'm going to pass on this one though. YMWV.
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Would LOVE to hear tunes from you NS.... YCAMV...your cool aid may vary.... just sayin' .. the point of my message....
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Would LOVE to hear tunes from you NS.... YCAMV...your cool aid may vary.... just sayin' .. the point of my message....
I have no idea of what you are talking about. ???
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AM radio station dreck, never could understand why people liked this group, and their first release in ten years does nothing to improve my opinion of them :o
Robert Lees
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It's pretty difficult to find two people who will agree about musical tastes. That said, let's remember to keep the conversation friendly.
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You're right about that Doc, never could understand why anyone would get their knickers in a twist over what someone else thinks about their musical taste ::)
Robert Lees
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Yeah, Art Dudley is really down on Boston. I think their music is really fun. Who knows why someone needs to deride musical tastes.
We are all different!
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You're right about that Doc, never could understand why anyone would get their knickers in a twist over what someone else thinks about their musical taste ::)
Robert Lees
The distinction between "I think the music sucks" (which I tend to agree with) and "I can't understand why anyone would like it" is subtle. But in the first case it is an expression of one's opinion about the music. The second - even if not intended to be - might be construed as an expression of one's opinion about others here. Not a big deal, I respect the maturity of everyone participating in the thread. I simply have an obligation to keep the peace around here. Apologies if I seem like the overbearing schoolmarm.
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Boston was no better or worse than the overly processed pop pablum of the era. I have no idea how the band really sounded, as most of their "commercial" sound was the result of processing by the engineers.
Of course, YMMV.
Cheers,
Geary
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With all due respect Doc, and on the basis of what you quoted I most certainly did not say that I did not understand why anyone would like it. Let me try and be clear this time. I don't care what anyone else happens to think about my musical taste, nor do I understand why anyone would be upset because other people express opinions that are contrary to their musical tastes or opinions 8)
Snowbound in the Great White North
Robert Lees
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Boston live in the seventies, in smaller venues like night clubs and college campus gigs was a very different experience from the studio recordings. They did have some cool electronics effects live that might be construed as over produced sound by the sound engineers. Truth is the guys were doing a lot of the effects through peddles and effects boxes. Some of the effects were designed and built by the musicians themselves.
PS I hope the comment about keeping the conversation civil wasnt aimed at me. I simply stated that I don't care for the latest album release. If that offended anyone it wasn't intentional.
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Guys, I apologized. Obviously i was being too cautious. Carry on.
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NOBODY here is offended whatsoever... My apologies if I came off a little harsh, which I did, I just came back from a Christmas party, and I never should post anything when feeling my "oats" if you will :).... So, NS, of course, I am not in the least offended, nor should I ever be.. As all of you said, I absolutely love people's differing opinion.. Now... what I ACTUALLY was referring to in my post was the 2 guys "reviewing" another person's VERY heartfelt work and feeling that they were entitled to pick everything Tom has done to pieces... And ALL I kept thinking was "who the hell are you guys?"...Talking about how the drum beats sucked, etc. etc.. well?? That is just how Tom (older now)is feeling as of today about the drums.. as he says , the songs are "meticulously crafted", so apparently , he is quite happy with the resulting mixes.... But, I love it when people "the 2 guys" keep comparing and telling (I guess, their followers) what they F, ing think Tom should have done with the music??/hahaha, I just say ,I would love to hear what they can produce... anyway, they got on my nerves, because, they were acting as if they are the utmost knowledgeable regarding another person's "from the heart" musical efforts, when in turn, the creator of the music, THINKS IT IS PERFECT!!! ... THIS, was what I was trying to say... If people do not like the music, cool, they can, it is all good.. BUT, I just do not think you should go and make a formal "review" about it on the internet, just in case you turn other people away from buying.. I do not think it is right.. and they do not have the right also... IMHO ONLY..... :).. Same goes to "reviewers who slag or act like an expert regarding audio products as if their ears are the proverbial "golden".... Designers try DAMN hard to produce quality products "usually" and people who DON'T do any designing will feel entitled to post reviews saying "it sucked, or"others are WAY better" etc... Anyway, super sorry for my rant.. I have always not liked people being critical of others' hard work just for the sake of them "thinking" they have something to "GIVE"??? to the table.. That they can be critical of what the designer or music creator WANTED to convey, NOT TRIED to convey, but WANTED!!... OK, rant is over, I guess my annoyance built up and those 2 guys just sent me over... Sorry Doc, if I was a little rude....Very much understand we are all friends and adults here... So, in a nutshell, Tom, is very happy with his album and I just listened to it and enjoy it for what it is.. NOT 70's Boston, but, TODAY's Boston.. And as G put it, It is a fun listen.. ok, enuff said... again, my apologies....
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Hmmm... I might have to watch the video again. I don't recall the "two guys" saying that anything sucked. In fact they had some favorable things to say about it. I saw a couple of guys expressing their opinion on the latest Boston release. Nothing more and nothing less.
BTW - Im sticking to my comment about the drum mix. On a couple of tracks the drums sound "under water." So if that's the sound he was going after then he nailed it.
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The interesting thing about Boston's sound is that the guitarist (Tom Scholz ) designed the effects he used. He started as a DIY guy (not really the same as us, given that he was MIT grad in mechanical engineering ) and spun this into a company, and licenses his designs to Dunlop.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholz_Research_%26_Development,_Inc.
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He worked for Polaroid after MIT...The guy is an inventor.... And "amateurish" production is a bit harsh NS... haha, but, it is all good...