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Bottlehead Kits => S.E.X. Kit => Topic started by: mmmml on April 06, 2016, 04:53:01 PM

Title: 5 kits available
Post by: mmmml on April 06, 2016, 04:53:01 PM
After the 5 kits are sold, will the kit still be available later?
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Doc B. on April 06, 2016, 06:58:53 PM
Nope, that's that last of them.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Bonzo on April 06, 2016, 07:19:57 PM
Are you planning an upgrade?  ::)
Otherwise I think there will be a riot, being the SeX on of the favourite kit among your customers!  ;D
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: mmmml on April 06, 2016, 10:19:21 PM
Will there be a product replacing them? I'm thinking about an amp with high power to drive LCD-2 but I'm not sure if getting the SEX or waiting for a new product is better  ::)
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: murray on April 06, 2016, 10:36:08 PM
You could look back to this previous thread... http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=8196.msg84043#msg84043 (http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=8196.msg84043#msg84043)  - it may hold some clues.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Doc B. on April 07, 2016, 04:45:35 AM
I will have a little more to say about this tomorrow.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: sbelyo on April 08, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
Doc, I have about 6 or 8 pair of NOS 6DN7 that I'll never use.  I'd be happy to trade then in for a gift cert or something
Title: 4 kits available (was Re: 5 kits available)
Post by: syncro on April 08, 2016, 10:33:21 AM
Or should I say, one (1) kit unavailable.  Been looking forward to one of these.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Doc B. on April 08, 2016, 10:35:37 AM
Thanks for the offer, but what we would need to stay in production is a confidence that there will continue to be tubes available in production volume quantities. The 6DN7 supply has been rocky in years past and has gotten even thinner as of late.

It has been asked if there will be a replacement amp that will work with the rather demanding power requirements of orthodynamic headphones. We are working on some ideas (Kaiju would be killer, but I digress). It's certainly not insurmountable, in fact the challenge is that there are many different ways to go at this. We want to try a few before we decide the best approach. Whatever we come up with will not use 6DN7s, and at this point I'm thinking it will use something readily available instead.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: sbelyo on April 08, 2016, 10:41:19 AM
No prob...  The S.E.X. is my pride and joy.  Thanks so much for giving us a kit that was easy to build and yielded 10 times the enjoyment.  That aint easy!

Now if I could just find a pair of those Sylvania 6DN7's that are marked for export only
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Joshewah on April 08, 2016, 12:34:49 PM
Sad to hear about the SEX, she had a good run.

Doc, I know you can't expand on too much info at this time, but would the future design that fills the SEX's gap also have speaker taps?

As of right now it's the only speaker+headphone amp in the Bottlehead lineup which is a pretty huge deal for people that want an all-in-one desktop valve amp solution (at least I think so).
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: mcandmar on April 08, 2016, 12:39:07 PM
I thought it was kind of sad too, wasn't the S.E.X the first Bottlehead kit before you were Bottlehead?  It must have some sentimental value to you too.

Very interested to see what you come up with to fill the void, a speaker/headphone amp is a rare beast these days so it would be nice to see you continue that theme.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: fullheadofnothing on April 08, 2016, 12:42:25 PM
As of right now it's the only speaker+headphone amp in the Bottlehead lineup which is a pretty huge deal for people that want an all-in-one desktop valve amp solution (at least I think so).

Quicksand has speaker and headphone outs.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Joshewah on April 08, 2016, 12:46:39 PM
True, but it's solid state and battery powered.

Love me some tubes.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Doc B. on April 08, 2016, 01:41:40 PM
Yes, we would put a headphone jack and speaker cable binding posts on whatever we come up with.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: dmhenley on April 08, 2016, 01:56:13 PM
I've some EL34 variants gathering dust...just sayin'

Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: mmmml on April 09, 2016, 02:46:40 PM
Is the product stock count based on how many orders were placed, or how many are left since shipping on Friday?
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Doc B. on April 10, 2016, 09:14:08 AM
The inventory listed on the order page is based on how many kits are left to buy. At this posting there are only 4 kits available.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: denti alligator on April 10, 2016, 09:59:11 AM
Best. Kit. Ever.

People should totally jump on this. It was my first kit, and I still use it daily. The headphone/speaker combo is so great. It can power a decent range of speakers. With my Klipsch horn speakers it sounds phenomenal. And with HD600s it's killer!

Don't hesitate, folks!
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Natural Sound on April 10, 2016, 02:42:06 PM
Best. Kit. Ever.

People should totally jump on this. It was my first kit, and I still use it daily. The headphone/speaker combo is so great. It can power a decent range of speakers. With my Klipsch horn speakers it sounds phenomenal. And with HD600s it's killer!

Don't hesitate, folks!

I would buy another one but I already have four. Two of the 2.0 and two of the 2.1's. I currently have two of them on extended loan to friends in need of a helping hand. I also have a nice little stash of NOS 6DN7's. The supply will probably outlast me. ;) That said, I'm watching the stock levels and might make an impulse purchase. Sometimes I just cant help myself. The S.E.X. kit is a very special amplifier.

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Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Jim R. on April 12, 2016, 02:50:49 PM
Wow, I can't believe these last 4 kits!s haven't been scooped up!

I wouldn't worry about the availability of the tubes, I've bought several pairs in the last week.

I still probably think this is still the best deal in quality audio that there is.

I have a really good non-bottlehead amp but I'm betting the se.x. Kit will be getting more than it's fair share of playtime.

I was originally torn between the stereomour II and the s.e.x. And I went for the s.e.x., and not because it's at the end of it's run, but I think it's an amp that suits my listening preferences better and as I remember, has that listen all day quality that I must have in my system.

What are you waiting for? :-)

-- Jim
 
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Paul Joppa on April 12, 2016, 05:58:44 PM
Thanks for those comments, Jim. Despite the fact that the Paramount/Stereomount is my baby (my first Bottlehead design), I still have an enormous fondness for the SEX amp. I use mine every day.

A year or so ago, we were talking of a 20th anniversary edition of the original S.E.X., which in early 1996 was first offered for purchase from Electronic Tonalities (which later became Bottlehead). It was to incorporate all the best mods, while still looking like the original. The dearth of 6DN7s pretty much killed that; even a modest run of 10 kits would need 40 tubes.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: kgoss on April 13, 2016, 04:40:30 AM
I agree with Jim, the SEX is an amazing amp. When I bought my version 2.0 amp years ago I believe it was the only headphone amp kit offered.  This was the entry level offering from Bottlehead at the time, but the finished amp is way above entry level in my opinion. I liked it so much I upgraded it to Magnequest full nickel as my final mod after several other upgrades.  I use mine almost daily as a desktop amp at my home computer and I still have not worn out a pair of those rugged 6DN7 tubes.  I have the best of both worlds with a wonderful headphone amp plus a wonderful speaker amp driving a pair of Blumenstein Mini speakers. The sound either way is sublime and never fatiguing. I believe I remember reading one of Paul Joppa's comments that "the SEX is the poor man's 45 amp".  And I totally agree. I'm currently building a Kaiju for the main system but I will always love my SEX amp.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: johnsonad on April 13, 2016, 04:43:27 AM
Thanks for those comments, Jim. Despite the fact that the Paramount/Stereomount is my baby (my first Bottlehead design), I still have an enormous fondness for the SEX amp. I use mine every day.

A year or so ago, we were talking of a 20th anniversary edition of the original S.E.X., which in early 1996 was first offered for purchase from Electronic Tonalities (which later became Bottlehead). It was to incorporate all the best mods, while still looking like the original. The dearth of 6DN7s pretty much killed that; even a modest run of 10 kits would need 40 tubes.

Paul, now that it will be out of production, would you all consider making that 20th Anniversay schematic available to us so that we could make the mods on our own? 

I love my SEX amp and it's scheduled for some mods after the next headphone amp I'm working on is completed.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Paul Joppa on April 13, 2016, 05:00:46 AM
Paul, now that it will be out of production, would you all consider making that 20th Anniversay schematic available to us so that we could make the mods on our own? 

I love my SEX amp and it's scheduled for some mods after the next headphone amp I'm working on is completed.
The original S.E.X. amps were monoblocks using 6DN7s per channel, with the power sections paralleled and the driver sections in a variant mu follower. Thus a modern SEX amp could be converted to a monaural original - you'd need two of the modern amps for stereo.

We will talk about what to do with the design ideas in the near future.
Title: Re: 5 kits available
Post by: Jim R. on April 13, 2016, 05:12:35 AM
As I said, I only had mine on loan for a short time and paired with a pair of Tonian TL-D1s and using a Wavelength Proton to feed the amp -- What a wonderful sound and with dynamics that were impossibly amazing for 2 watts. Those Tonians were another one of those speakers I woefully regret selling, and I recently looked for another pair and it seems they are out of production.

That was such a simple system yet sounded so amazingly good. I'm hoping to get back to that level of sound (but obviously different) with my current setup which is very similar except for the addition of a better DAC, Aries mini streamer/server, and a Orca deluxe / dungeness Max stack, and balanced power.

Sometimes it takes a long time and far too much money to figure out that a basic, simple system can sound out-of-this-world sound. There's a lesson in there somewhere. :-)

Paul, your babies are also wonderful amps but I'm trying to live within a much smaller audio budget these days, and in that regard, the s.e.x. Just floated to the top.

-- Jim