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Bottlehead Kits => BeePre => Topic started by: oltmb on September 24, 2016, 08:35:37 AM

Title: Resistance check failed [resolved]
Post by: oltmb on September 24, 2016, 08:35:37 AM
I assembled the Beepre and started the resistance check.

There is a problem with the resistance check for T10. The resistance does not start low but starts at around 500 KOhm and then starts dropping.
During the voltage check, the leds of CS4  A board do not light up.

The same is for the resistance at T15. The measured value is 330 KOhm. However the leds of CS4 B board do light up.

I have checked a connections and examined the solder joints.

Where should I look for a possible problem. Can the 220uF capacitor at U9 and U10 be faulty?

Title: Re: Resistance check failed
Post by: Paul Birkeland on September 24, 2016, 05:54:13 PM
Provided you don't get really low resistance at terminal 10, you can ignore that resistance issue.

Telling us that LED's don't light up lets us know that your BeePre isn't working.  Posting your voltages will help tell us why.

-PB
Title: Re: Resistance check failed
Post by: oltmb on September 25, 2016, 08:19:00 AM
Thank you.
I checked the adjacent circuitry and just re-soldered the joints and that worked. The unit is now working well, but with some hum in one channel. I will upgrade the unit first with the BeeQuiet that I ordered and after that I can do the fine tuning. I am very pleased with the result as I have the limited edition of the BeePre.
Title: Re: Resistance check failed
Post by: Paul Birkeland on September 25, 2016, 08:53:07 AM
No, please finish debugging your build before installing any other upgrades, otherwise you may have to remove them for us to help you debug the stock build.

-PB
Title: Re: Resistance check failed
Post by: oltmb on September 30, 2016, 04:21:55 AM
Here are the voltage measurements for my 230 Volt unit. The values between brackets are negative voltages (how can that be?)
First colum is the listed value and last column is measured value. Variance means unstable value.

     List    Measured    
1   5V    4.94   
2   90-110V   92.8   
3   0V   0.1 mV   
4   9.85V   9.83   
5   0V   7 mV   
6   146V +/- 1%   145.9   
7   0V   variance   
8   0V   0   
9   0V   0   
10   186V   175.3   
11   146V +/- 1%   146   
12   0V   variance   
13   0V   0   
14   0V   0   
15   186V 174   
16   5V   4.94   
17   90-110V   94.4   
18   0V   0   
19   9.85V   9.77   
20   0V   7.3 mV   
21   0V   0   
22   213V  202.5   
23   0V     (6.7 mV)   
24   0V     (6.7 mV)   
25   213V   202.1   
26   0V      0   
27   0V      0   
28   0V     (46 mV)   
29   6.8V     6.38   
30   6.8V     6.38   
31   13.6V 12.8   
32   0V      0   
33   0V      0   
34   13.6V  12.8   
35   6.8V       6.39   
36   6.8V       6.39   
37   0V      (47.4 mV)   
38   0V      0   
39   0V      9   
40   213V   202.2   
41   0V      (10 mV)   
42   0V      (10 mV)   
43   213V   202.3   
44   0V      0   
45   0V      0   
46   213V   202.2   
47   N/A      
48   0V   0   
49   0V   0   
50   N/A      
51   0V   0   
A1    Too risky to probe.      
A2    90-110V   93.1   
A3    0V           0   
A4   Too risky to probe.      
B1   Too risky to probe.      
B2    90-110V     94.6   
B3    0V             0   
B4    Too risky to probe.      
Terminal Voltage (DC)         
C1 ,D1   N/A      
C2, D2   0           (6.1 mV)   (9.3 mV)
C3, D3   3.5-4.5V    3.48      4.2
C4, D4   N/A      
C5, D5   N/A      
C6, D6   N/A      
C7, D7   147V   146           146
C8, D8   N/A      
C9, D9   147V   145.6   145.7


Title: Re: Resistance check failed
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 01, 2016, 06:58:23 PM
When you see -6.1mV, that is -0.0061V, which is plenty close to 0V in a high voltage circuit.
Title: Re: Resistance check failed
Post by: oltmb on October 22, 2016, 02:40:32 AM
I ran a sound check and noticed a buzz coming from the left channel and decided to do a complete resolder as I thought that would help. After doing the resistance check I noticed that the resistance at terminal 7 is around 270 Ohms instead of the 470K and don't know where to look for the problem. I resoldered everything around terminal 7 but that did not help.. All other resistance values are within spec. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Resistance check failed
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 22, 2016, 02:45:05 PM
Terminal 7 is the output of the preamp, that goes through the twisted pair to the output jacks at the back of the BeePre. If you have 270 Ohms of resistance from 7 to ground, I would check the 475K resistor connected to that terminal, as well as the build that goes from the unbalanced output jacks to the balanced output jacks.

-PB
Title: Re: Resistance check failed
Post by: oltmb on October 23, 2016, 05:37:10 AM
I did check in that direction and resolved the issue. After the voltage check I hooked it up to my system and it is playing fine. The only issue is the microphonics, but I will first do the BeeQuiet upgrade and then work on making the unit less susceptible to microphonics. Thank you for your great support!