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Title: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel (resolved)
Post by: ostoich on April 10, 2017, 06:18:58 PM
I know the manual says that being off by a few % isn't a big deal. I just want to make sure before I turn this puppy loose.

All voltages were within suggested range for the small board. The big board was a bit higher:

OA - 135v
OB - 120v
G - 0v
B+ - 206v

Everything look good?

Thanks for all the support.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages
Post by: ostoich on April 10, 2017, 07:03:22 PM
Well it sounds great in the right channel...

Nothing in left channel. Bummer. Back to work tomorrow I suppose.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages
Post by: calmiswar on April 10, 2017, 10:47:36 PM
DO NOT connect your good headphones into the amp right now.

I destroyed my HD700s doing that, don't make the same mistake.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages
Post by: ostoich on April 11, 2017, 01:10:49 AM
Right. I unplugged them right away. Tried taking some cheapies to find a loose connection with chopsticks. Couldn't find anything last night.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages
Post by: Paul Birkeland on April 11, 2017, 11:50:18 AM
What are the small board voltages?
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages
Post by: ostoich on April 11, 2017, 12:47:46 PM
What are the small board voltages?

Small board:

OA - 78V
IA  - 202V
B-A/B - 0V
IB - 202V
OB - 78V

Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: ostoich on April 13, 2017, 06:46:39 AM
The most noticeable thing is that the TIP50 on O2B runs hot and O2A stays cool. I suppose I'll focus on that side of the board. Any other thoughts about what might be wrong?
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: Paul Birkeland on April 13, 2017, 12:12:13 PM
Yes, I would agree that focusing on that side of the big PCB is a good idea.  It could be as simple as a bad solder joint that isn't allowing adequate current draw.  Since you have Speedball 1.1, the R1 resistors are where they should be, and the PN2907 and 2N2222 are impossible to mix up (your small board is also working, which excludes these possibilities).

I would bet on the center leg of the TIP50 on the offending side not being soldered well enough.

-PB
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: ostoich on April 13, 2017, 05:00:05 PM
Resoldered all leads of the TIP50. The soldering iron caused a spark on the lead closest to the center of the board. Now the LEDs on the A side of the board won't light. Thoughts?

Now I'm running:

OA: 196V
B+: 202V
OB: 120 V
G: 0V

What did I break? I'm​ a total novice but I thought the instructions were so clear that there was no way I could mess this thing up.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: Paul Birkeland on April 14, 2017, 08:24:00 AM
How are your voltages at 6 and 10?

Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: ostoich on April 14, 2017, 12:13:39 PM
How are your voltages at 6 and 10?

Both terminals 0V.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: Paul Birkeland on April 14, 2017, 02:20:54 PM
I would suggest replacement of the TIP50 and the 2N2222 on that side of the big PCB.  A spring-loaded solder sucker makes this work much easier. 
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: ostoich on April 16, 2017, 09:45:05 AM
Ordered these from Mouser. Will they work or should I email replacement parts?

TIP50: http://www.mouser.com/Search/m_ProductDetail.aspx?r=512-TIP50

2N2222A: http://www.mouser.com/Search/m_ProductDetail.aspx?r=494-2N2222A

Sadly, I'm feeling a little impatient because of how close I am to finishing.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: Paul Birkeland on April 19, 2017, 01:34:40 PM
You don't need to spend $6 on a 2N2222 transistor, Mouser # 610-2N2222  will do the job nicely.  The TIP50 selection you made is a good choice.

-PB
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: ostoich on April 22, 2017, 10:13:50 AM
So, I replaced the TIP50 and the 2N2222. LEDs still don't light on the A side of the big board. B side LEDs lights up fine after about 10 seconds. The 270ohm resistor from T15 to T21 also gets really hot... Really fast. Voltages are now:

Large Board:
OA - 55V
OB - 79V
B+ - 89V
G - 0V

Small Board:
OA - 77V
IA - 88V
B-A/B - 0V
IB - 88V
OB - 51V

I just removed the entire big board and will resolder every joint. Then try reinstalling it. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: ostoich on April 23, 2017, 08:57:12 AM
Finished removing and reinstalling the big board. Tested voltages again while big board was out and everything looked pretty normal.

After reinstalling the board.. had the same results. Same voltages. Same very very hot 270ohm resistor.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel (resolved)
Post by: ostoich on April 23, 2017, 01:41:56 PM
Replaced the LEDs on the dark side of the board and hot damn.... resistance - check... voltages - check. SWEET MUSIC.

Now to try out this Tung Sol 5998 that's been sitting on my desk since I started the Speedball process. Can't thank you enough for the help PB.
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: Natural Sound on April 23, 2017, 02:19:36 PM
Good job, Eric! Have you tested the LED to see if it shorted or opened?
Title: Re: Crack - Speedball Voltages - no sound left channel
Post by: ostoich on April 23, 2017, 02:41:59 PM
Good job, Eric! Have you tested the LED to see if it shorted or opened?

I assume it was a complete short. I really don't have any technical knowledge when it comes to electronics. The Crack was my first project - the Reduction I built a couple weeks ago went much better after the first build. I just figured it was time to install the Speedball upgrade.

I tested D1 with the diode test on my multimeter and I couldn't get a reading. I did get a reading on D2. Though after replacing D1, it lit up, but D2 didn't and the voltages were off. After replacing D2 - everything lit and voltages were spot on. Glad to have this back. Had a lot of music to listen to before going to Forecastle Festival in July.