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Bottlehead Kits => S.E.X. Kit => Topic started by: joralieu on October 09, 2021, 11:02:27 AM

Title: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 09, 2021, 11:02:27 AM
Just installed the C4S upgrade kit. I get 67 volts on OA and 48 volts on OB. Also one of the led's on the B side is not lit. Problem?
Thanks
Joe
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 10, 2021, 05:25:59 AM
Can you post a picture of your installation?
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 10, 2021, 09:34:09 AM
Here are some pictures.
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 10, 2021, 10:42:23 AM
You have a backwards transistor.
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 10, 2021, 11:09:37 AM
Okay, where is it?
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 10, 2021, 11:50:03 AM
Okay, where is it?
On the C4S board.
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 10, 2021, 12:11:33 PM
Okay, I see it now. How does one go about desoldering that? The Board came to me already built.
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 10, 2021, 12:19:23 PM
There are a few ways to deal with this.  You can purchase a replacement PN2907 transistor, then cut the one off that's on there now but cut it so that as much of each lead is left sticking up out of the board as possible, then heat up each pad and slip the lead out, then install the new transistor.

You could also attempt to use solder wick, a spring loaded desolder pump, or an electric vacuum desoldering tool to remove the solder that's there, then turn the transistor around and solder it back in.  The PN2907 should still work just fine.

If someone else built this, I would send it back.
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 10, 2021, 12:48:18 PM
Well I got this last winter when I purchased the sex kit. The upgrade came with the board already assembled. Is this the way they come now? I kinda thought it was weird that the the instructions show how to assemble the board when mine came prebuilt. I guess I will attempt to desolder the transistor and turn it around.
Thanks
Joe
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 10, 2021, 01:26:40 PM
The upgrade came with the board already assembled. Is this the way they come now?
Our boards do not come pre-built.

I ​kinda thought it was weird that the the instructions show how to assemble the board when mine came prebuilt.
Are you sure you got this from us? 

Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 10, 2021, 02:35:08 PM
Yup, ordered it at the same time I bought the sex kit. Another odd thing, it had one completed board and one blank board all the wires and hardware but no components to populate the the blank board.
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 11, 2021, 04:49:57 AM
This is really odd, as the building where the packing and order fulfillment happens often doesn't have the tools present to populate and solder up a board.  When these kits are packed, parts are laid out and several kits are packed all at the same time, so this would be highly unusual.  Moreover, if you asked for a built board, that request likely would have gone to me.

Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Mucker on October 12, 2021, 01:51:53 PM
Check the security cam for ghosts soldering in the wee hours .... maybe C4S stands for "Check 4 Spirits"???  :o :P
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 15, 2021, 04:44:33 PM
Now that I had some time to reflect on this I think I did assemble the board. The soldering was so perfect( except for the backwards transistor) I thought it was built by somebody other than me. The thing is that it came with 2 boards and I must have done the board when I was doing the sex amp and didn't remember that I did it ( it was a while ago) any way my apologies for the complaint. Still would like to fill this empty board just for practice if I could buy the parts from you. By the way I managed to desolder the transistor and flip it and it sounds great?
Thanks
Joe
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 16, 2021, 05:38:38 AM
Is it possible that the other board might be for a different kit you also have?
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 16, 2021, 06:08:30 AM
No, the only other kit I have is a crack that I haven't started yet.
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 16, 2021, 06:15:07 AM
If there's a Speedball with that Crack, it would have that same small board included.
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: QueenBottlehead on October 16, 2021, 07:16:01 AM
Hi Joe, I am happy to send you a PayPal invoice for the parts you need for the second board. They are so skinny that I must have packed two in the little baggie by mistake. I will be back in the office on Monday. I am happy that you made good progress with your build. Happy Listening! ~Eileen
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 19, 2021, 02:44:56 PM
Thanks so much for the stellar customer service. I have a question about  the crack I am about to build. I like the look of the bare top plate and transformer bell, should I clear coat them and with what?
Thanks
Joe
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 19, 2021, 03:38:31 PM
It's a very good idea to paint the transformer cover and the actual metal stack of the transformer itself too.  I take painter's tape and wrap a loop around the terminals so they don't get painted, then spray the transformer with black nitro lacquer.  I would get a recognizable brand and avoid stuff like the Ace Hardware brand.

For the cover, I find it works well to clean it with steel wool and alcohol, then clear coat or also spray it with the black lacquer. 

The chassis plate will look the way it does for a long, long time.  When I get old brushed kits back, typically the aluminum is just dirty more than anything. 
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: joralieu on October 19, 2021, 03:56:01 PM
What is black nitro?
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: kgoss on October 20, 2021, 04:28:51 AM
Nitrocellulose lacquer. 
I have used and like the Mohawk brand which I get from Klingspor's Woodworking Shop.
Title: Re: Sex 3.0 C4S upgrade
Post by: Paul Birkeland on October 20, 2021, 05:35:39 AM
What is black nitro?

If you go to the hardware store and there's a spray can that says "lacquer" on it but doesn't say "polyurethane" or "acrylic" on it, you're good to go.