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Title: Speedball Problems
Post by: david luckenbach on June 13, 2022, 05:51:58 AM
i am having issues with install of the speedball
crack was working fine prior to upgrade
9 pin leds not lighting up
voltages are 148, 155,0,170,145 across the board
resistors are fine
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: Paul Birkeland on June 13, 2022, 05:54:57 AM
Are both the 12AU7 and 6080 glowing?
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: david luckenbach on June 13, 2022, 11:58:50 AM
yes, they are both glowing  every so often i get a flash of white light from one of the tubes  not sure which one as the unit is upside down

also, now one of the 4 leds on the board is out.  looking at the board in mounted position-its the one at top right corner
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: david luckenbach on June 13, 2022, 12:01:08 PM
a9 connection was maybe bad as when i touched that green wire the two leds right side would flicker
i think i got  a better solder on that joint now.

but now one led is out as i mentioned above
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: Paul Birkeland on June 13, 2022, 01:10:42 PM
Has fixing that joint changed your voltages?  Can you post some build pics?
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: david luckenbach on June 14, 2022, 01:57:54 AM
hope the pics help
voltages today are slightly different  148, 173, 0, 170,  fluctuating
so the far right is going up and down
top right led still out
both tubes lit
9 pin leds still both out
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: Paul Joppa on June 14, 2022, 04:19:11 AM
The picture files seem to be empty.
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: david luckenbach on June 14, 2022, 04:41:00 AM
try these photos
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: Paul Birkeland on June 14, 2022, 04:55:40 AM
You have some substantial soldering issues that are going to cause some problems.  I would review this soldering video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN16Pi7pcfk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN16Pi7pcfk)

Be sure you're not using lead free solder and also be sure your iron is turned up as hot as possible. 

Your joints specifically haven't been heated anywhere near long enough for the solder to flow out and work properly, and this is also true for the solder joints in the underlying build.  The exceptions to this (in other words joints to leave alone) would be the power switch and the solder joints for the LEDs, as they take substantially less heat to be properly soldered.
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: david luckenbach on June 14, 2022, 05:23:57 AM
so basically remove the circuit board and start over.....
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: Paul Birkeland on June 14, 2022, 05:32:04 AM
You can reflow all of the solder joints in the amp without removing anything.
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: david luckenbach on June 27, 2022, 08:28:59 AM
so i found some time to give this a go

voltages on 2,4,7,9, oa, ob and b+ are sill about half what they should be

resistance on 7 and 9, then b3 & b6 are not correct like they used to be

suggestions?
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: Paul Birkeland on June 27, 2022, 12:54:38 PM
The resistances on 7, 9, B3, and B6 won't be 3K unless you put the 3K resistors back in.

What's the DC voltage at 13?
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: david luckenbach on June 28, 2022, 05:49:20 AM
well whatever i did not was mess it up looking at dc voltage at 13
nothing lights up at all anymore, but i do get a flash when i plug in
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: Paul Birkeland on June 28, 2022, 05:51:07 AM
What flashes when you plug it in?  Is the fuse blown? What DC voltage do you measure at terminal 13?
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: david luckenbach on June 29, 2022, 07:37:27 AM
well yes i did blow the fuse..
so i replaced the fuse  and voltage at 13 was 5.5 dc
it didnt flash this time but now the 2 leds on the tube base stopped working
Title: Re: Speedball Problems
Post by: Paul Birkeland on June 29, 2022, 07:44:17 AM
If your voltage at 13 is 5.5V there is something very wrong with your amp.  Do both the 270 ohm 5W resistors look OK and unburned?

Did you carefully mount the TIP50 transistors as instructed in the manual?  If the hardware and insulating pads aren't put on properly, you'll end up with this exact situation.