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Title: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: dbishopbliss on August 21, 2012, 03:49:59 AM: I have tried windex, mr clean, lysol, dawn and a sponge with a scrub pad. I still see the dots left by the sticky bubble wrap. Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Grainger49 on August 21, 2012, 04:01:36 AM: I had the same problem with an LP. The answer didn't come to me so I posted.

If it is sticky, use Goo Gone. My LP got a spin on the 16.5 afterward but showed no signs of damage. Still doesn't 4 years later.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Doc B. on August 21, 2012, 04:09:04 AM: Didn't realize the bubble left anything on the panels. If you haven't assembled them you might try running them thru the dishwasher
Title: I used WD-40 and then a quick windex clean-up
Post by: tcell on August 21, 2012, 04:35:19 AM: Worked great. Yeah, Doc, I was going to comment on this too. It'd be better to avoid having the adhesive side of the bubble wrap directly contact the metal.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: saildoctor on August 21, 2012, 05:50:24 AM: I have to clean adhesive goo off sails and metal bits all the time at work. Acetone and GooGone are the stuff of choice. There is a product called Goof-Off that works great- but it is really nasty stuff.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: STURMJ on August 21, 2012, 07:19:05 AM: Rubbing alcohol should work too
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: dbishopbliss on August 24, 2012, 07:13:15 AM: Quote from: STURMJ on August 21, 2012, 07:19:05 AM

Rubbing alcohol should work too

I tried rubbing alcohol last night and it worked on the smooth (inside) of the plates pretty well. I still can see the residue on the brushed (outside ) of the plates when I hold them at an angle. I'm going to try Goo-Off next.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Grainger49 on August 24, 2012, 08:53:15 AM: David,

As Kerry said acetone will melt away anything that is on the plate. But I'm beginning to suspect that the plate is slightly marred.

If that is the case fine Scotchbrite across the whole plate in the direction of the grain will get rid of the mar. Before finishing you will want to clean the metal powder that will be left.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Doc B. on August 24, 2012, 10:46:19 AM: No, don't do that! The panels are rather painstakingly brushed by yours truly in a somewhat complex pattern. Sanding them with scotchbrite will royally f*** that up. My suggestion once again is to try the dishwasher. That's what we do here if a panel that is going into a finished product has any residue on it.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Grainger49 on August 24, 2012, 03:07:22 PM: Dan,

My suggestion was only in the case that the top plate was marred. If it can be cleaned it isn't marred.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: mrarroyo on August 25, 2012, 01:35:32 AM: I have found that clay bar (yes for car paint) removes just about anything from surfaces. Just make sure you use soapy water so the clay bar slides and does not stick.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: dbishopbliss on August 26, 2012, 01:05:20 PM: Quote from: Doc B. on August 24, 2012, 10:46:19 AM
No, don't do that! The panels are rather painstakingly brushed by yours truly in a somewhat complex pattern. Sanding them with scotchbrite will royally f*** that up. My suggestion once again is to try the dishwasher. That's what we do here if a panel that is going into a finished product has any residue on it.

Well, I tried the dishwasher and I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS AT ALL!!! The panels turned dark and discolored. In addition, the dots are very pronounced now. You might consider removing the post so nobody else tries it. See the attached images.

I think I'm going with paint now.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Doc B. on August 26, 2012, 01:56:03 PM: Wow, I have never seen that before in 18 years. When we do panels in the D/W here they come out really nice. We can send you another pair of panels.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: dbishopbliss on August 26, 2012, 02:47:12 PM: There is still residue on the panels so I'm going to try the Goo-Off to see if I can clean them up before painting. If that doesn't work then I might want some new panels that haven't been brushed. However, the enclosure I'm building will be covering up most of the front panel so it might not really matter.
Title: WD40 works, really. Most people have it around the house too...
Post by: tcell on August 26, 2012, 04:15:13 PM: I used it on these very plates to get off the very same dots of adhesive. Cleans up easily with windex, fantastic, etc.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Pfenning on August 26, 2012, 06:24:14 PM: I think the active ingredient in dishwasher soap that doesn't like aluminum is alkali. My wife has some old aluminum cup cake pans she has run through the dishwasher, and they look the same as you plates now. Most everything that is bare aluminum in our kitchen is marked hand wash only. I suppose the type of detergent you use makes a difference. It's weird they got that bad from one washing, the cupcake pans took a few times through before we noticed the problem. You could sand them and get them anodized, or plated with any number of things. Doc may even be able to re-grain them. Good luck, I can't wait to see your cabinet. I just received my kit, and am planning some cabinet mods myself.

Pfenning
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Doc B. on August 26, 2012, 08:03:45 PM: Yeah, the guys may not use any detergent in the dishwasher, I'm not sure. And yes, I am sure I could redo the graining. The few panels we have left in stock have been grained. Sounds like WD 40 is the solution for anyone else who might have the same problem.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Bill Chase on August 27, 2012, 07:22:33 AM: I my panels with a fine (400) grit pad on my palm sander. This should work on the dark dots David mentioned too, though you may want to start with 220 grit, then move to 400+ for final.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: 2wo on August 27, 2012, 02:55:04 PM: Even a Scotchbrite pad may do it...John
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Dyna Saur on August 27, 2012, 03:01:24 PM: Mine didn't have the bubble marks, all it needed was a quick clean-up in the top front panel area, for the graphic overlay, to be carefully applied.

BTW, my Tode arrived in just 2 days from WA to NC!

Already have the back panel / PSU completed, and started on the frontpanel, just got the "scoop" filter step completed.

/ed B in NC
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Doc B. on August 27, 2012, 04:09:27 PM: Not that it does much to help David, but I wonder if the hot weather across the country made the "sticky" on the bubble do something abnormal in transit. Reminds me of the times we have had to ban Hershey Kisses in the boxes. Anyway, David, my offer stands. I am more than happy to ship you another set of panels, not wrapped in sticky bubble!
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Grainger49 on August 28, 2012, 01:08:03 AM: Dan,

I expect that you buy bubble wrap in large rolls. So isolated cases would have to be something that happened after packing.

I'll pitch in with Dan on the heat during delivery. Since I'm home I get a package that is HOT out of the truck. And I mean hot. I don't know why the heat in those trucks don't bake the brains out of the drivers.

David,

Take Dan up on it and get to building!
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: dnm on December 15, 2012, 05:24:59 AM: Mineral Spirits was very effective. Rubbing alcohol removed the marks, in part, but mineral spirits fully and completely dissolved all the marks left by the remaining adhesive.

When I removed the wrap from my panels, the adhesive even caused particles of the plastic wrap to stay adhered to the panel. I flooded the panel with the mineral spirits, which penetrated all the swirls, loosened all the plastic still stuck on there, used a soft tooth brush in a circular motion to scour the panels, then flooded the panels with rubbing alcohol to fully wash off the mineral spirits.
Title: Re: How do you remove the marks on the panels left by the bubble wrap?
Post by: Doc B. on December 15, 2012, 06:06:04 AM: Thanks for the tip, that is good to know The obvious solution to this was for us to use non-adhesive bubble wrap, which we have changed over to for shipping the panels.