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Title: PLEASE POST!
Post by: adamct on July 29, 2013, 10:11:21 AM
Ugh. So bored at work, and there has been a total of maybe 5 posts all day long...  :-\ Somebody post something!  ;D
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: corndog71 on July 29, 2013, 10:17:07 AM
I'm rebuilding my modded Dynaco ST35 amp into a new box.

Kinda like this...

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi576.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss207%2Fcorndog642%2F0821b75ddf5261ed7dc08d18a56aae90_zps7e9e7c6a.jpg&hash=b4fb88677c42d4bce8a89c02aefb51ef61386127)
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: adamct on July 29, 2013, 10:23:07 AM
Thanks! Too bad the system at my workplace won't let me see the picture...  :(
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: 4krow on July 29, 2013, 10:24:29 AM
 Good lord, that's a little above my ability. Now will any of the wiring have to be rerouted because of the new box, or is it part for part, piece for piece?  I was sorta thinking along the same lines for the Quickie.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: corndog71 on July 29, 2013, 10:56:41 AM
Good lord, that's a little above my ability. Now will any of the wiring have to be rerouted because of the new box, or is it part for part, piece for piece?  I was sorta thinking along the same lines for the Quickie.

It's pretty much my own layout.  Here's what it used to look like. 

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi576.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss207%2Fcorndog642%2FDynaco%2520ST35%2FIMG_7465_zps4e68055d.jpg&hash=ca74d714c5255cc8dadc9e26af94c02c90b15c08)

Which was also my own layout.  I wanted to do something different.  I succeeded but over time I realized that I actually made it harder to deal with troubleshooting and/or making changes. 

The new layout will be much easier to troubleshoot and tweak.  There really isn't a lot of parts to these amps.  It seems like there is but they're  deceptively simple.  I should be done building it hopefully later this week.

adamct - Sorry you can't see my pics.  Maybe you can see this one.  This is similar to my idea but a little different.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fep.yimg.com%2Fca%2FI%2Ftriodeel_2268_68589643&hash=76bd8f506ad70ce5859fc9f40e43a51752e0822c)
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: adamct on July 29, 2013, 10:58:22 AM
Thanks, Rob! That one worked.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: 4krow on July 29, 2013, 11:38:48 AM
I've got to try my hand at breadboards. They are more logical to me and keep things neat.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: rif on July 29, 2013, 12:11:41 PM
I've got to try my hand at breadboards. They are more logical to me and keep things neat.


Can someone post a pic of the non-component side of a breadboard? I'm not clear on the proper way to wire up components. And my few attempts have ranged from ugly to disastrous.

Thanks
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: corndog71 on July 29, 2013, 12:39:03 PM
It's pretty much all point to point with some wires used for longer stretches.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi576.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss207%2Fcorndog642%2FDynaco%2520ST35%2F0db3f02d.jpg&hash=e1d0728db753be4945865d8ab7902cc0eb31ad7b)

In the next version I'm only using a pair of small bread boards for the negative feedback circuits.  The rest will be mostly point to point.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: johnsonad on July 29, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Man I was thinking there was something wrong with the server!
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: earwaxxer on July 29, 2013, 03:26:37 PM
I want to build one of these! Its killing me. Once I go part time. For sure..
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: coca on July 30, 2013, 06:11:43 AM
I am also planning on a rebuild of the ST. 35. However, I will do something a little extreme, by using different tubes, and building mono blocks. I will be using 6SL7 & 6SN7 tubes in the front end, and 6V6 tubes in the output, and installing the new PCB's.

Bernie.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Chris on July 30, 2013, 06:47:09 AM
Funny, I always hear all these great things about the el84 tube. I was also thinking that maybe the bottlehead crew can design a simple but quality el84 amp to go with the quickie or something like that that can rival the st35.....just a thought...
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Doc B. on July 30, 2013, 06:59:46 AM
We have been talking about it.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Chris on July 30, 2013, 07:34:36 AM
Am I on the same wavelength here or what?...  Before, I posted, "what would be really cool to see is a DHT OTL reference pre amp". and Doc came back with , "we are already working on one"... and now, I ask about an el 84 amp, and Doc is "already discussing it"...   I promise, I am not remote viewing or spying Doc... :)
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Grainger49 on July 30, 2013, 10:25:28 AM
Ok, I'm posting.

Why does the baby changing table in the Men's room have instructions in Braille?  (Jim, please help me here)  What do they say, "Clean, clean, clean.  Turn baby boys over, you can't see it coming."  Or something like that.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: adamct on July 30, 2013, 11:30:41 AM
As the father of twin daughters, I assure you I didn't always see it coming with them either...  ::)
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Grainger49 on July 30, 2013, 11:32:02 AM
I have no children just stories from good friends.  I have never changed a diaper.  But I help make them.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Chris on July 30, 2013, 11:36:50 AM
And then when your daughters grow up, you have to worry about this..... :)   I shot this in a club in South East Asia.  Apparently, they must have a problem with this sort of thing.... hahaha
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: adamct on July 30, 2013, 11:53:33 AM
This is totally unrelated, but I once went into a men's room that had a sign above the urinals:

"WARNING! Recycled water - not suitable for drinking!"

 :-\ ::)


Really? When was the last time you saw a guy in the mens room using a straw to slurp out of the urinals?
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Doc B. on July 30, 2013, 01:45:54 PM
I suppose riding a pogo stick in the women's restroom could be a little dangerous.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: adamct on July 30, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
I just laughed out loud...my daughters are giving me strange looks...  ;D
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: johnsonad on July 30, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
Having lived in Asia for many years, you don't even bat a lash at these signs. If they help those that need it, so be it!
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Armaegis on July 30, 2013, 02:39:27 PM
Not my finest breadboard work, but it turned out ok...

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.head-fi.org%2F1%2F16%2F900x900px-LL-1678267f_IMG_5222.jpeg&hash=e857e7efb4ae01d6c4c9b2842105dd1a0cfcb041)
(power supply not installed yet, but it's just a simple TLE rail splitter with a couple caps.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.head-fi.org%2F9%2F93%2F900x900px-LL-931c5348_IMG_5223.jpeg&hash=a1bf4c8e5134bb9d9348854c40c4818675da452d)
Yeah I know, some of those are pretty ugly joints. I went back and touched up most of them after the pic (as well as did a few that I missed the first time) and trimmed off those excess leads

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.head-fi.org%2F4%2F4e%2F900x900px-LL-4e326fbc_IMG_5229.jpeg&hash=12366f4328fe15e9c0505a4d39436fe221956900)

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.head-fi.org%2Fc%2Fc7%2F900x900px-LL-c75b9f3a_IMG_5219.JPG&hash=b43a6c50078f687384ac53da5540ed51314ff78d)
(the intended board layout was cleaner with everything running vertical or horizontal, but I goofed up midway and wound up jiggering things on the fly

This was a nutty headphone amp project that I cooked up to mimic Jan Meier's "active balanced ground" topology: http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/grounds.htm
Three dual opamps were used. The first as an input buffer and where the bass boost switch is located. The other two for the output channels. I think I managed to squeeze in a gain switch somewhere in there too. My mistake, it was a switch for an output pad resistor.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: 4krow on July 30, 2013, 03:20:03 PM
 Thanks, that gives me a place to start.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Grainger49 on July 31, 2013, 12:06:06 AM
Adam,

I have never been so drunk that I drank from the urinal.  Those hockey pucks in them would get in your way anyway.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Chris on July 31, 2013, 12:35:59 AM
Yeah, and not to mention taste terrible...  And yeah Doc, A guy on a pogo stick is what that does look like... too funny!!......And  not sure why he is trying to impress her so much, she has a "club" left leg.... :)
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: HF9 on July 31, 2013, 07:10:17 AM
Those hockey pucks in them would get in your way anyway.
I hear they make great after dinner mints.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3521%2F3466147817_6a69563890.jpg&hash=db4638de696ecd41d4226432e5d333081a07b4fa)
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Chris on July 31, 2013, 07:40:55 AM
That's just standard procedure after you've had your fill of the "artesian' water...
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Armaegis on July 31, 2013, 10:54:06 AM
I never could figure out why some bathrooms have those fancy water fountains so low to the ground.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Clark B. on July 31, 2013, 11:13:57 AM
Ok, I'll post a random one:

I recently started a little bizarre, but healthy and harmless hobby: collecting driftwood for sculptures.  Right now I'm hoping to make a large sculpture of an Orca whale probably for the backyard of our shop.  Have collected the head, dorsal fin, tail, and some of the most important pieces to round out the body.  Now needing to find pectoral fins, extra filler pieces, and some novel way of attaching it all together and elevating it off the ground.  Debating whether I am up to the challenge to make this 10-12 ft. long scultpture "breach" or not.

Oh, the odd things we do to stay in shape :)

Cheers,

Clark 

In other news, am making good headway on a new large bookshelf model to release soonish.  Taking sea related name suggestions.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: 4krow on July 31, 2013, 11:28:59 AM
  It has tempted me more than once to use a piece of driftwood somehow in a speaker design. Non conventional is great in trade for boxes, boxes, and more box-shaped pieces of audio gear.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Clark B. on July 31, 2013, 11:43:29 AM
The tough part of getting a driftwood speaker is getting the same piece of driftwood twice... 
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: adamct on July 31, 2013, 12:18:39 PM
How about the "Blackfish", which is both sea-related AND Orca-related?  ;)
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: adamct on July 31, 2013, 12:24:01 PM
Or the "Pilot", which keeps things whale-related...
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: 4krow on July 31, 2013, 03:19:20 PM
Ummm, I still use mono.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: porcupunctis on July 31, 2013, 03:30:24 PM
Back to bread boarding.  Has anyone else made their own phenolic eyelet board for use in a hifi?  I have made a few for guitar amps and always thought it would make a nice clean build that would be easy to maintain.

Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: rif on July 31, 2013, 03:36:47 PM


In other news, am making good headway on a new large bookshelf model to release soonish.  Taking sea related name suggestions.

Orcapocalypse

Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Armaegis on July 31, 2013, 04:49:39 PM
  It has tempted me more than once to use a piece of driftwood somehow in a speaker design. Non conventional is great in trade for boxes, boxes, and more box-shaped pieces of audio gear.

I drive by this place that makes custom kitchen/bathroom countertops all the time, and I keep wondering if that would make a good panel to mount drivers onto. Or maybe find some surplus sinks or something and make pseudo horns out of them... or something.  :o
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Cary on August 01, 2013, 05:41:09 AM
I just finished building a pair of 13EM7 Miniblok amps. They sound great for a low investment.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: 4krow on August 01, 2013, 06:00:16 AM
 Armaegis,

   The countertop material, if it is a poured type might very well be a great baffle material with support. Corian was expensive back in the day, but there many more types of material now days. 1" thick would be a good start, with proper support as I mentioned. Also, you can go to places like the 'Restore' that Habitat for Humanity may have in your area. I have many materials for projects there.
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Molly B on August 02, 2013, 12:40:11 PM
I came across this article recopied on a hi fi blog and it's great for a laugh!

"I Married a Hi Fi Addict" by Alice Brooks for Audio magazine, Sept 1960

http://itishifi.blogspot.com/2013/07/i-married-hi-fi-addict-by-alice-brooks.html
 (http://itishifi.blogspot.com/2013/07/i-married-hi-fi-addict-by-alice-brooks.html)
"The day finally came when the whole shebang came upstairs. It only took three men to get it up and they put the stair railing back when they finished, so it was relatively uneventful."
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Clark B. on August 02, 2013, 12:49:10 PM
Ummm, I still use mono.

Definitely still listen to Mono music.  I own more 78's than 33's...  For RnD, Its a great way to evaluate incrimental changes in a system.  Its very easy to compare changes that way.

How about the "Blackfish", which is both sea-related AND Orca-related?  ;)

Adam, this should be a really good movie...  https://www.facebook.com/BlackfishFilm (https://www.facebook.com/BlackfishFilm) I really like the name Blackfish for a speaker too.  Thanks a ton for the suggestion!
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Dr. Toobz on August 02, 2013, 01:42:07 PM
Nothing wrong with mono - a lot of my favorite recordings aren't in stereo. Plus, the wood floors where I live are so damaging to my horn speakers imaging that I'm halfway ready to just shove the damn things next to each other, by a wall for better bass, and wire them in mono. It's not like I'm getting a realistic stereo image or "life like" soundstage anyway! Unless one is sitting still and equidistant from a pair of carefully-placed stereo speakers, I happen to think stereo is a bit overrated for casual loudspeaker use. Guess I'm more of a headphone guy.....
Title: Re: PLEASE POST!
Post by: Chris on August 08, 2013, 11:02:08 AM
I will post,  Dr. Amar Bose died on my birthday July 12.... My first stereo as a teenager was built around a pair of 901s with which I LOVED dearly and SERIOUSLY rocked both the west coast as well as the east coast of America for 15 years with those things.... A VERY fond memory... Thank you Amar for the huge amount of fun I had with your design and RIP.... Love the company or not, in the 1970s and early 80s, that company was putting out some FUN products... Nuff said... and note, I said the 1970s and early 80s ONLY....