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Other Gear => Digital => Topic started by: audiophileboss on September 11, 2013, 03:14:11 PM

Title: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: audiophileboss on September 11, 2013, 03:14:11 PM
I owned the Audio Research Cd-9 transport up till now. Just bought an Accoustic arts drive II. Waiting for my Wireworld Starlight Platnium cable to come in. Once it does I will post what I think them/it. Anyone own the Drive II from AA? Impressions?
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Paul Birkeland on September 11, 2013, 04:33:22 PM
I didn't know there was even a market still for CD transports.
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: 2wo on September 11, 2013, 05:21:53 PM
I hope so. Any time I have tried to play a CD in a DVD player, it drives me crazy.

Reading...Reading...Identifying...Thinking about it...Deciding if a lowly CD is worth playing...Thinking about it some more...OK if you insist. 
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Chris on September 12, 2013, 12:03:47 AM
Yeah and the WORST is the dreaded... "CANNOT read, ERROR"... ERROR!!! and just why might that be??? Can drive a man nuts...
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Doc B. on September 12, 2013, 03:46:24 AM
I don't think the general population is considering DVD players as an evolutionary step up from CD players in delivering redbook digital content. The music server (i.e. music delivered off a hard disc, be it iPod, Roku or PC based music server) is probably what has moved most CD players into thrift stores. Well, that and dead lasers. The perceived step up in convenience is similar to that promoted by the CD makers vs. the LP when CDs first came out. Luckily this time the sonic quality can actually improve with the change in the medium. I was caught quite off guard by this improvement in sonics when I first experienced it myself several years ago.

That said, I do still have a few friends who seem to be pursuing the latest gadgeted-up player. In light of what I heard coming off a server vs. coming off a CD/DVD transport, I can't say I think that is money well spent. But I imagine that like turntables and yes, even reel to reel decks, there will always be a niche market for a high end CD transport. And certain CD players will become cult worship objects just like certain Garrards and Studers.
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Armaegis on September 13, 2013, 05:50:41 AM
I think these days DVD players are getting passed over in favour of an xbox/playstation. They can play dvds AND access netflix.
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Chris on September 13, 2013, 08:42:23 AM
All in one Oppos are popular also... People are definitely using their DVD players for cd playback these days... the average consumer wants an all in one gadget more than separates ( as in a home cinema system and an audio playback system).. I, for one, am NOT the average consumer and want BOTH... :)
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: denti alligator on September 13, 2013, 09:13:38 AM
What I want is a CD player that can also play SACD (and perhaps also DVD-Audio, though that's not essential) and also work as a network player to receive (through ethernet) and output (digitally) my FLAC from my server. Oh, and it has to be able to do this gaplessly. There's the rub. I don't think such a player exists. Yet.
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: odamone on September 13, 2013, 05:01:45 PM
+1 lack of gapless playback is the only reason I haven't bought an oppo. Why is gapless so hard?
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Paul Birkeland on September 13, 2013, 05:21:40 PM
+1 lack of gapless playback is the only reason I haven't bought an oppo. Why is gapless so hard?

Yeah, I wonder the same thing (Swenson, where are you?).

The first MP3 player that I bought in 1999 had gapless playback, none others that I have purchased since do.
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: earwaxxer on September 13, 2013, 05:54:26 PM
I dont know, IMO I dont know why anyone is still using anything other than a laptop for their digital. SO much more flexible. I have been all over the map with my musical bits. Most of the experimentation done for little or no cost. I could care less what the DAC du jour has in its firmware. It has probably already been done in software, been there done that.
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: denti alligator on September 14, 2013, 04:25:59 AM
Yeah, a laptop is ideal. Output with USB to DAC and basta! But it would be nice to have a CD/SACD player, too. Especially the SACD.
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: adamct on September 14, 2013, 03:36:01 PM
iPod touch, iPad or iPhone --> Pure i-20 --> coaxial cable --> DAC

Smaller, cheaper, simpler than a laptop.  ;)
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Chris on September 15, 2013, 05:49:02 AM
I agree with Earwaxxer and adam... But, it still makes me want to sit on the fence a little longer before committing  to anything.. Source wise that is...
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: adamct on September 15, 2013, 08:46:52 AM
Chris,

If you have an iDevice, do try out a Pure i-20. They work amazingly well, and at $100 or so, they are dirt-cheap, too. If you plan on using one with an iPad, get one of these (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041D6CFY/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1), too. Actually, get one no matter what iDevice you plan on using. Trying to select an album/track while the device is in the dock is a royal PITA. These cables are overpriced, but the build quality is excellent (far better than any other non-boutique iDevice cables I've tried), and ultimately they are worth the price in terms of convenience and peace of mind.

If you decide you don't like the Pure i-20, I'll buy it from you. I already have 3, but I'm sure I can find a good use for a 4th.

Best regards,
Adam
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: denti alligator on September 15, 2013, 09:31:29 AM
Sure, and in the new build of JRemote we'll get gapless and 24/96 lossless, but I'm suspect of getting the data for lossless music wirelessly. It just can't be as good as a wired connection, or?
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: xcortes on September 15, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
A cdp still can't be beaten for simplicity. I've been into high end music servers and they sound ok but while they never beat analog media they are equally cumbersome to to operate.

Want simplicity? A good transport with an NOS dac. Want the best, go analog.

My two pesos.
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Chris on September 16, 2013, 07:41:04 AM
And all who agree say "I"...... I.....
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: BobL on February 02, 2014, 07:18:13 AM
A cdp still can't be beaten for simplicity. I've been into high end music servers and they sound ok but while they never beat analog media they are equally cumbersome to to operate.

Want simplicity? A good transport with an NOS dac. Want the best, go analog.

My two pesos.

I gave up LP a long time ago, but I agree that if you have the patience to use it, a (very) large amount of cash for the player, and lots of space to store the discs, this may be the best, but none of these conditions apply to me. The other analog (ue
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Grainger49 on February 02, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
    .  .  .    if you have the patience to use it, a (very) large amount of cash for the player    .  .  .  .     

Bob,

This is a whole 'nother thread but I disagree that it takes an extraordinary amount of cash to have a vinyl system that disgraces a killlobuck digital rig. 

Post in Vinyl and we will continue.
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: Natural Sound on February 02, 2014, 02:17:36 PM
    .  .  .    if you have the patience to use it, a (very) large amount of cash for the player    .  .  .  .     

Bob,

This is a whole 'nother thread but I disagree that it takes an extraordinary amount of cash to have a vinyl system that disgraces a killlobuck digital rig. 

Post in Vinyl and we will continue.


+1
Title: Re: Fyi about cd transports
Post by: ToneDeaf on February 17, 2018, 09:53:36 AM
Damn,
     I must be a dinosaur. I have a custom built Quantum CD transport. I'm retired and don't listen to music if I travel ( not often ). It then goes to a very modified Jolida Glass FX Tube DAC.  And then to a 300B amp that I built, and Madisound BK-16 and two bucket subs driven by a Crown XLS 1500.  I never listen to music from my computer. Like I said, A dinosaur. I am going to put the output of the DAC to a mainline amp and headphones. Just waiting on the Mainline to get here.I'm probably missing a lot but I like it simple.