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Bottlehead Kits => Legacy Kit Products => Crackheadphone => Topic started by: Doc B. on February 12, 2014, 12:22:47 PM

Title: First pic
Post by: Doc B. on February 12, 2014, 12:22:47 PM
OK guys, here is a pic of the functional prototype.
The kit is based upon the Monoprice 8323, aka Kicker HP541. Some parts of these amazing bang for the buck cans (headband, yokes) appear to be shared with various Ultrasone models.

We have modified the cups with two different materials for acoustical damping (possibly the most important mod sonically), changed the earpads (the stock ones are really terrible), changed the headband pad (also terrible, really uncomfortable) and added some vinyl skins to the closed cups that help to more easily identify Left and Right.

The cable is from Mogami, sleeved with black Tech Flex with a gold stripe. The plugs are a combo of Neutrik and Switchcraft. The cable has a load built into it that makes the cans work well with Crack (and specifically with Crack - that is the entire point of the exercise).

Answers to questions: 

These do sound different than stock 8323s
The bass is punchy and tight. It is quite different than the rather boomy bass of the stock cans.
The midrange is clean but not forward or overly "tubey".
The top end is clean and smooth and much more extended than the stock cans with the stock "audiophile" cable.
There is plenty of adjustment range on the Crack volume control, no hair trigger. This is due to the load adjustment in the cable.
Yes the Crack amp will clip if driven really hard into these cans. $1500 300 ohm Sennheisers will work better than these cans in terms of power handling and amp loading. 40 ohms cans of any type probably won't.
We won't sell the kit without the headphones.
We don't know if these headphones will work with any other amp. We designed the kit specifically for use with the Crack amp.
Price will be $149 plus shipping.
We should be ready to take pre-orders soon. The manual has not been written yet, so it may take a couple of weeks to ship the first kits after we start to take orders.
Everyone is welcome to come by the office and hear the prototypes. Please give us a call at 206-451-4275 so we can have everything ready when you arrive.
Title: Re: First pic
Post by: 2wo on February 12, 2014, 01:25:18 PM
Wow, I am not a headphone guy but for that price for a "just add music" system, Im in...John
Title: Re: First pic
Post by: mcandmar on February 12, 2014, 03:27:27 PM
Alright you got me :)

Tyll Hertsens was so impressed with the vanilla 8323 he put them on his wall of fame!
Title: Re: First pic
Post by: Evan on February 12, 2014, 07:25:15 PM
Just added my order. I've only ever used HD600s with my crack and I've been wanting to try a second set of phones.
Title: Re: First pic
Post by: Mike B on February 13, 2014, 02:50:09 PM
Those look really good.  Strong & robust.

I'm even tempted and I said I have no interest...

Good job!
Title: Re: First pic
Post by: StivVid on April 07, 2014, 07:26:12 AM
Just out of curiosity... Have you thought of trying to use the headband pad from the Ultrasones?  They're available for $8.76 in their online store.
Title: Re: First pic
Post by: StivVid on April 07, 2014, 07:28:56 AM
By the way... Took advantage of the package deal. Really looking forward to giving these a try. I haven't been satisfied with any other closed-back phone that I've tried.
Title: Re: First pic
Post by: Paul Birkeland on April 07, 2014, 09:22:44 AM
Just out of curiosity... Have you thought of trying to use the headband pad from the Ultrasones?  They're available for $8.76 in their online store.

Give them a shot and let us know!

Part of the discomfort of the pads that come with these headphones is the pressure they put right on the top of your head, hence our efforts to spread the pressure out laterally.  I'm not sure if the Ultrasone pads will have the same effect, but it's sure worth a shot.
Title: Re: First pic
Post by: StivVid on April 07, 2014, 12:27:48 PM
Just might do that. I'll let you know if I do.
Title: Re: First pic
Post by: StivVid on April 09, 2014, 06:49:07 PM
Found an ebay seller that has the Ultrasone HFI series pads for 3 dollars plus shipping.  Placed my order.  I'll report back after I receive the Bottlehead kit.

In case you're interested...

http://bit.ly/1kMQGbI