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Bottlehead Kits => Legacy Kit Products => Quickie => Topic started by: mkane on August 28, 2015, 07:38:48 AM

Title: Rechargable 9v
Post by: mkane on August 28, 2015, 07:38:48 AM
  We listen 5 houre or more daily and got tired of buying batteries every 130 hours so I bought 8 Powerex 9.6v 230mAh rechargeable with associated charger. Charges in less than 2hrs. The seller claims over 1000 charges over the life of the battery. Sound great, fit well. I have 27 hrs on a charge so far and counting.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: boulos on August 28, 2015, 08:51:44 AM
I got those same ones too. Note that they charge to ~11.5V when fully charged.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: mkane on August 28, 2015, 02:27:28 PM
   So far the Quickies up to the task.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: denti alligator on August 28, 2015, 03:37:31 PM
I got those same ones too. Note that they charge to ~11.5V when fully charged.
Bad for Quickie?
Reviews of these aren't great.

How important is the mAh?
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: mkane on August 28, 2015, 05:29:29 PM
 36 hrs and counting. The may charge to 11v but how long does that last.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: Natural Sound on August 29, 2015, 05:05:35 AM
Bad for Quickie?
Reviews of these aren't great.

How important is the mAh?

The voltage is fine. Read Paul Joppa's comments here http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=1242.msg8571#msg8571 (http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=1242.msg8571#msg8571)

The higher the mAh rating the longer they (should) last.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: 4krow on August 29, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
Rechargables are certainly of interest to me. I am thinking that Li-ion battery would be a good choice for a rechargeable. This might be apples and oranges in some way, but for power tools, Li-ion beats all the others that I have tried. I even have an integrated amp that uses one. Going a step further, I am looking forward to more development of the 'super' capacitor banks that can be used back and forth for a continual power. Thar are said to have much less internal resistance as well.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: mcandmar on August 29, 2015, 02:14:49 PM
I run mine off three 12v sealed lead acid batteries.  I have no idea how long a charge will last, been using them for three months and they are still over 12v each.  Ask me next year :)
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: Paul Joppa on August 30, 2015, 11:43:17 AM
Just a note - the current drain of Quickie is very low, so the high current capacity of power-tool batteries is not used. What counts is often the leakage current. There are low-discharge NiCd cells, NiMH has around twice the leakage of normal NiCd, and lithium-ion cells are even worse. At least, that's how I remember it - been a while since I looked these up.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: mcandmar on August 30, 2015, 11:52:59 AM
Worst i have seen are the Green/White"GTL" branded rechargeable Ni-MH 9v's from eBay, out of circuit they fully discharge in about a week. Utterly useless.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: mkane on August 30, 2015, 02:38:21 PM
50 hrs. Still sounding right.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: WK3K on August 01, 2016, 10:02:59 AM
I'm gonna taking the plunge on the rechargeable's as well. @mkane, are you still happy with the Powerex? It looks like they just introduced a new line this year: http://www.mahaenergy.com/blog/new-line-of-batteries-powerex-precharged/ (http://www.mahaenergy.com/blog/new-line-of-batteries-powerex-precharged/).

They now offer two different versions of 9v batteries: one at 9.6v and 230mah and the other at 8.4v and 300mah. I seem to remember another thread in which someone said the higher the mah, the longer the batteries should last. PJ has mentioned in the past that even 7.2v batteries would be enough to drive the quickie, and headroom isn't really a problem for me.

I'm trying to get the most milage per charge, so I'm thinking the 8.4v at 300mah is the way to go. Anyone have any thoughts before I pull the trigger?

Witold
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: Paul Joppa on August 01, 2016, 02:47:40 PM
If you squeeze the longest life you can from alkaline "9v" batteries, they will drop from 9v to 6v, so the design was centered at 7.5v per battery. NiCd and NiMH batteries hold their voltage pretty constant until the charge is mostly used up. I stand by my opinion that anything above 7v is adequate for most systems.
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: WK3K on August 02, 2016, 05:54:29 AM
Hey thanks PJ. I'm going to pull the trigger on these and I'll report back on the mileage.

Best,

Witold
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: mkane on August 02, 2016, 10:10:06 AM
I'm gonna taking the plunge on the rechargeable's as well. @mkane, are you still happy with the Powerex?



 Still quite satisfied
Title: Re: Rechargable 9v
Post by: Karl5150 on August 23, 2016, 05:29:49 AM
I picked up EBL brand Ni-MH of both 9V and D cells from the place that ships in the box with a smile on it. I noted the voltages upon receipt and there was no noticeable loss in the 6 or so weeks prior to replacing the alkaline sets in my Quickie (9Vs were at 6.75V). I topped them off with the smart charger and have been using them for a couple weeks. I will report back if I experience unexpected results, good or bad.