Is your amp complete? or finished?

[azrockitman]

I borrowed this from a non related forum this morning.
No dictionary has ever been able to adequately define the difference between "complete" and "finished". However, in a linguistic conference held in London, England, and attended by some of the best linguists in the world, Samsundar Belgian, a Guanese, had an outstanding definition.
His challenge was this: "Some say there is no difference between 'complete' and 'finished'. Please explain the difference in a way that is easy to understand."

His response was:
"When you marry the right woman, you are 'complete'.
If you marry the wrong woman, you are 'finished'.
And, when the right one catches you with the wrong one, you are 'completely finished'.
He got a standing ovation.

[Mike B]

Both are complete.  Work perfectly and sound wonderful.

Also finished.  I'm not going to dick around with modifying them further.

I like to put the mod parts in with the build.  Easier that way.

I'm going to wait until it breaks before I fix it -

[Grainger49]

My amps are complete, yes, finished probably never.

Does this make sense? 

My Eros is even further away from being finished.

[matthewmckay]

I made the mistake of wrench-tightening some binding posts on a speaker, while I was listening to music...

needless to say, that particular amp is finished.

[Paul Birkeland]

I made the mistake of wrench-tightening some binding posts on a speaker, while I was listening to music...

needless to say, that particular amp is finished.

Just thought I'd shamlessly plug our products - the amps will tolerate a dead short on the speaker outputs with no ill side effects.

-PB

[Chris]

Mr. Mogo risin makes complete sense and AZ's definition is hilariously perfect... I think no world class linguist is needed as you guys got the defs down pat.... Now, I completed my post and am satisfied, therefore, i am finished "washed my hands" of it.....

[mpeg2]

PB: Isn't tolerating a dead short on the output a characteristic of most/many tube amps. What they may not tolerate is a "dead" open. Solid state amps are usually the reverse (a dead short lets out all the magic smoke).

When I built my 1st tube guitar amp & saw a shorting output jack (if no speaker plugged in, the output was shorted), it took a long time before (and a long discussion with the designer) before I came to realize this.

   Rich

[Grainger49]

Just thought I'd shamelessly plug our products - the amps will tolerate a dead short on the speaker outputs with no ill side effects.

-PB

They are also pretty happy with the primary of the output transformer shorted during startup.  Sometimes I forget to throw the switches back to "open" and play music through the Parafeed cap to ground.  Then I remember since there is no music coming out.

This keeps the transformer primary from getting magnetized by the startup bleed through DC.  Xavier did it, so I followed suit.

[Paul Birkeland]

If you have a power amp with global feedback, then you would rely on signal being present at the secondary of the output transformer in order to tame what would otherwise be a ton of gain and qutie a bit of distortion.

If you drove the input of such an amplifier with a healthy amount of signal, but had a short at the secondary of the output transformer, the output valves would be working incredibly hard, possibly to the point of overheating either themselves or the output transformer. 

Generally, this is a pretty difficult condition to create, but it's certainly possible.