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Offline proud indian

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on: December 08, 2014, 11:00:12 PM
I want to build a passive amp, that will stand before the sex. What would be the ideal value of the pot?

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Shreekant :)

system 1. oppo, quickie,SEX 2.1 ( V cap), Decware DFR8 in ZOB cabs
System 2. Tascam cd200, Terra Dac,Zbox,Decware Zen amp(V cap) Lowther PM6A in Acousta horns.
Maple rack, Brass footers,Power conditioner, dedicated treated room, iso pads, plenty of tubes. All cables DIY.


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Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 12:59:06 AM
Hi,

I am working on a similar little project and will use a 100k Alps pot and a 6 position selector switch.

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Michael

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Offline proud indian

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Reply #2 on: December 09, 2014, 01:21:19 AM
Ok we are on similar lines, as I too have a 6 selector switch that I picked up from Decware a long time ago. I have a stepped attenuator of 100k, but wanted to make sure that the value is right for the sex amp.

Thanks,

Shreekant :)

system 1. oppo, quickie,SEX 2.1 ( V cap), Decware DFR8 in ZOB cabs
System 2. Tascam cd200, Terra Dac,Zbox,Decware Zen amp(V cap) Lowther PM6A in Acousta horns.
Maple rack, Brass footers,Power conditioner, dedicated treated room, iso pads, plenty of tubes. All cables DIY.


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Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 08:15:53 AM
Passive "preamps" must make a compromise. On the one hand, the source components (especially those with tubes) want to see a high impedance, such as 100K ohms.  For a reference, Reduction, Eros, and Quickie-with-PJCCS all work best with at least 50K, though we have found them sonically satisfactory at 15K minimum.

On the other hand, if the passive is to drive interconnects of any length, its impedance should be low.  For a reference, Reduction, Eros, and Quickie-with-PJCCS all have an output impedance of 4K ohms, and we advise cables of 1 meter, or low-capacitance cables of 2 meters, maximum.

The most widely used value is a 10K potentiometer, which has a worst case source impedance of 2500 ohms at the -6dB setting, assuming the source components have a very low internal impedance. A 16K potentiometer would have a 4K worst-case source impedance.

Hope that helps.

Paul Joppa


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Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 01:35:25 PM
Thanks Paul. But to make it simple for me, which value would you suugest, if I were to run my cd player (oppo) into my sex amp directly. Would you suggest 10, 25, 50 or 100k. My interconnects are short......max 18 inches.

Thanks,

Shreekant :)

system 1. oppo, quickie,SEX 2.1 ( V cap), Decware DFR8 in ZOB cabs
System 2. Tascam cd200, Terra Dac,Zbox,Decware Zen amp(V cap) Lowther PM6A in Acousta horns.
Maple rack, Brass footers,Power conditioner, dedicated treated room, iso pads, plenty of tubes. All cables DIY.


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Reply #5 on: December 09, 2014, 02:40:56 PM
nt

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Reply #6 on: December 09, 2014, 02:42:43 PM
Thanks

system 1. oppo, quickie,SEX 2.1 ( V cap), Decware DFR8 in ZOB cabs
System 2. Tascam cd200, Terra Dac,Zbox,Decware Zen amp(V cap) Lowther PM6A in Acousta horns.
Maple rack, Brass footers,Power conditioner, dedicated treated room, iso pads, plenty of tubes. All cables DIY.


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Reply #7 on: December 09, 2014, 07:14:19 PM
nt
Paul,

What does nt stand for?

Michael


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Reply #8 on: December 09, 2014, 07:25:45 PM
Paul,

What does nt stand for?

Michael

NT stands for "N"o "T"ext.

His answer was in the subject (25K) nt, not the body of the post.

HTH
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Reply #9 on: December 10, 2014, 06:20:34 AM
Thanks. Should clean my glasses occasionaly...  :o

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