anyone use Gruv Glide?

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Offline denti alligator

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on: July 26, 2015, 05:39:16 AM
If there's one problem I have with vinyl it's static + dust. I do a thorough cleaning on my VPI and put them in plastic sleeves. But sometimes they come out with static or with a little dust, and a carbon brush usually gets rid of dust but only add more static. So it's a constant battle between de-ionizing and carbon brushing.

Looking at reviews of Gruv Glide makes me wonder if this might be the solution I need. Anyone?

- Sam

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Offline Chris

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Reply #1 on: July 26, 2015, 08:25:47 AM
Yes, I used it for a very short while back in like 1983 and i noticed a slight veil over the treble region so I didnt use it anymore.. And I was a teenager back then with a set of Bose 901, a Technics TT and a Pioneer integrated and was just super positive about all the new gadgets, treatments etc. that would come out back in the day.. The record sure looked beautiful after application and I played them.. Then I noticed a "very noticable" lack of excitement "dullness" with my VERY familiar Henry Paul album.. And have to say it got me thinking the gruv glide was the obvious culprit... So, what I am getting at is that back in the day, I mostly just enjoyed the music while appreciating quality sound fidelity (as best as I could afford and understand) and wasnt listening with a super critical ear AND YET, I still noticed the veil.... I am surprised that gruv glide has survived on the market all these years, so I would just say if you want to, you can buy and try, but just do one album and then evaluate B4 going gung ho on many... or better yet if you have a duplicate, do one and compare... You may just love it...  Also, having said this.. I find the exact same thing with cds EVERY time I have used products like auric illuminator, Russ Andrews Reveel cd treatment "mold release" that MANY people swear by.. however, when I compare with a duplicate cd, it seems like the "life" is gone out the music...  I, one time, decided to bring my GF in for a blind test... She had no idea what I was doing, I just said which cd do you like the sound of the best, played the same song and she immediately said the "that one".. which was exactly the same as I was hearing... the untreated cd....it was obvious....  I asked her why, and she said one song sounded "dull"...  so I would just say.. the usual  YMMV.. because you read rave reviews on these treatments by many, and yet, I havent found one that doesnt veil the sound.... And the whole time, I am TRYING to like the product!... You always want something you buy to render some kind of perceived improvement, but for me, there was always an opposite effect...  Might sound extreme, but run a humidifier for a short time in your listening room a couple hours before listening.... if it is possible....
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Reply #2 on: July 26, 2015, 03:55:52 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^that



Offline Jim R.

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Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 09:18:50 AM
Sam,

The record brush from mapleshade does a great job.  The bristles are super fine Stainless steel (very, very fine so they don't scratch the record), and all those are connected to a ground which plugs into a spare ground on an outlet strip. Best anti-static brush ever.

No affiliation or any of that.

Also lent it to a friend who immediately went out and bought one for himself. BTW --Colorado is a very dry place and static is a constant issue.

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Reply #4 on: July 30, 2015, 03:09:55 PM
The Mapleshade brush does nothing for me. It does not remove anything. the bristles are too fine. Am I using it wrong?

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Reply #5 on: August 02, 2015, 06:52:38 AM
I tried the Mapleshade brush when it came out a few years ago and it did not work for me either. I have 4 different CF brushes now and they all behave different. One adds static, some are okay at getting rid of the static, they all remove a fair amount of dust but only if the record has been cleaned with fluid. I used the Disc Doctor solutions without a vacuum machine and it does an all right job at removing static from the record in the first place. But after repeated plays and using the CF brushes the static eventually comes back. To the Gruve Glide, I was using it on a lot of my records but am not using it anymore. It does a good job with the static but you will still have dust accumulating on the record after a while. I never noticed Gruv Glide affecting the sound much but I never bothered to do comparison listening with a treated and untreated copy. I also used it on electronic dance music  records only which is a different thing than listening to jazz or classical. Gruv Glide is pretty pricey to just try out, the good thing is if you do not like what it does you can just wash it of again with you VPI. The whole static problem can be very hard to resolve. Sometimes it is the TT itself that might cause a problem. One thing I would pay attention to is to not dry your records completely on your VPI. Just run it for one revolution with the vaccum on and then let it air dry for 5 to 10 min. Some people on other forums reported good results by putting a small container of water near your TT. The dehumidifier sounds like a great idea but I have not tried it myself. Good luck.

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