Help with voltage check

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Offline s0ap

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on: February 17, 2015, 10:43:02 AM
I've reread the manual and checked the wiring, as far as I can tell it's all correct.
All resistance checks were good. I am building the 120 volt version of the kit.
My problem is all the voltages are wrong, here is what differs from the manual.
1 - 240V
2 - 240V
4 - 240V
5 - 240V
7 - 0
9 - 0
13 - 240V
15 - 240V
21 - 240V
A1 - 240V
A6 - 240V
B1 - 240V
B2 - 240V
B3 - 0
B4 - 240V
B5 - 240V
B6 - 0
Neither of the tubes glow. I've never worked with electronics before and have no idea where to go from here.
Any help is much appreciated, Thanks.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2015, 10:45:08 AM by s0ap »



Offline Paul Birkeland

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Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 10:48:55 AM
Try posting some photos of your build.

What wall voltage are you able to measure?

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Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 11:30:06 AM
I have 122 volts from the wall. Here are some pictures

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Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 11:47:38 AM
The lack of glow on the tubes is a strong hint that something is wrong with the heater circuit. The pictures don't show terminals 4&5 on the power transformer because the 270Ω resistor is in the way. Can you post a picture of those terminals?

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Reply #4 on: February 17, 2015, 12:29:21 PM
How does this look?
(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah167%2Fdrew5538%2FIMG_20150217_181821_zps872da0b2.jpg&hash=fd55bdb9f50b098dd06729dd05b7038f5f7b43bc)



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Reply #5 on: February 17, 2015, 12:31:33 PM
Try measuring the AC voltage between power transformer terminals 4 and 5. 

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Reply #6 on: February 18, 2015, 06:22:24 PM
It looks like you've got B1 and B2 connected.  I don't believe they should be.

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Reply #7 on: February 18, 2015, 07:21:54 PM
Good catch on B1/B2.

It also looks like B3 may be wired to the wrong terminal (check the 2.49K resistors if this is the case, one may be really burned).

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Reply #8 on: February 19, 2015, 10:00:33 AM
Is there something in between B7 and B8?I could be wrong...



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Reply #9 on: February 19, 2015, 10:11:08 AM
Is there something in between B7 and B8?I could be wrong...
You could be very right.  If those terminals were shorted by a piece of wire, the outcome would be roughly the voltages listed above.

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