Running balanced and unbalanced at the same time.

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Offline Strikkflypilot

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Hi.

My Mainline is usually run with HD800s with balanced cable.
Today I also hooked up my modded HD580s to the unbalanced jack.
I would imagine it should be possible to hear a slight difference with an additional 300ohms headphone connected while listening to the HD800, but I heard no difference.
(Doctor, is this normal...?)

Home system:
Sources: Ibasso DX90, Google Chromecast Audio optical out
DAC: Schiit Gumby
Amp: Bottlehead Mainline
http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=7463.0
Phones: HD800S

Office:
Sources: Iphone/ Ipod
DAC: Dragonfly Red+Jtrbug
Amp: Crack/Speedball heavily modded
Phones: HD580,HD600 grilles


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Reply #1 on: July 16, 2015, 10:11:09 AM
The output impedance of the amp is low enough that halving the load from 300 ohms to 150 ohms by paralleling two high impedance headphones (it's actually a bit more complex due to the balanced/unbalanced setup) really won't affect the output level that much. Lower impedance cans may have more influence.

Dan "Doc B." Schmalle
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Reply #2 on: July 16, 2015, 10:27:17 AM
That explains it.
Thank You very much.

Home system:
Sources: Ibasso DX90, Google Chromecast Audio optical out
DAC: Schiit Gumby
Amp: Bottlehead Mainline
http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=7463.0
Phones: HD800S

Office:
Sources: Iphone/ Ipod
DAC: Dragonfly Red+Jtrbug
Amp: Crack/Speedball heavily modded
Phones: HD580,HD600 grilles


Offline Paul Birkeland

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Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 11:59:29 AM
If the balanced/unbalanced switch is left on unbalanced, you should be able to do this without any issues.

-PB

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Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 12:15:21 PM
The switch made a difference, like before, but, left balanced, listening to HD800, I could not distinguish whether or not the HD580(unbalanced) was connected.

Home system:
Sources: Ibasso DX90, Google Chromecast Audio optical out
DAC: Schiit Gumby
Amp: Bottlehead Mainline
http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=7463.0
Phones: HD800S

Office:
Sources: Iphone/ Ipod
DAC: Dragonfly Red+Jtrbug
Amp: Crack/Speedball heavily modded
Phones: HD580,HD600 grilles


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Reply #5 on: July 22, 2015, 08:22:57 AM
In fact, listening with my HD800s with balanced cable, I hear absolutely no difference between balanced and unbalanced setting.
With my HD580s which are cabled unbalanced, they sound louder when the switch is in unbalanced.

Is this normal. I am not sure it has been like this all the time.

Home system:
Sources: Ibasso DX90, Google Chromecast Audio optical out
DAC: Schiit Gumby
Amp: Bottlehead Mainline
http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=7463.0
Phones: HD800S

Office:
Sources: Iphone/ Ipod
DAC: Dragonfly Red+Jtrbug
Amp: Crack/Speedball heavily modded
Phones: HD580,HD600 grilles


Offline Paul Joppa

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Reply #6 on: July 22, 2015, 08:56:57 AM
That is as would be expected, though there may be some more subtle differences, especially with lower-impedance phones.

Paul Joppa


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Reply #7 on: July 22, 2015, 09:03:17 AM
Fantastic news:)
Thank You for the swift reply.

Home system:
Sources: Ibasso DX90, Google Chromecast Audio optical out
DAC: Schiit Gumby
Amp: Bottlehead Mainline
http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=7463.0
Phones: HD800S

Office:
Sources: Iphone/ Ipod
DAC: Dragonfly Red+Jtrbug
Amp: Crack/Speedball heavily modded
Phones: HD580,HD600 grilles