Occasional popping sound - pictures and initial troubleshooting [resolved]

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Reply #15 on: October 14, 2022, 12:53:11 PM
The issue definitely seems to be in some way related to that smaller "A" socket. When I wiggle around that tube, I am getting the popping noises. Nothing happens when I move around the larger one. In any case, I took a few more pictures... which have made me realize just how messy my install is!  :-[ pardon the melted wire insulation.



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Reply #16 on: October 14, 2022, 01:12:27 PM
What kind of solder did you use? There is a lot of excess flux on those joints.

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Reply #17 on: October 14, 2022, 01:24:52 PM
I used Cardas Quad Eutectic Solder with Rosin Core.



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Reply #18 on: October 14, 2022, 02:20:36 PM
Which LED goes out? What are your voltages when it goes out?

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Reply #19 on: October 14, 2022, 02:27:28 PM
Those are good questions, Paul. I can try to replicate the issue and measure it then. How should I measure the voltage when it goes out - where should be DVM leads go?

I think the LED that briefly went out was the one attached to A3... I'll verify if I'm able to replicate the issue tomorrow.



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Reply #20 on: October 14, 2022, 02:28:01 PM
Just let me know which LED is out and what the voltages are on terminals 1-5.


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Reply #21 on: October 14, 2022, 02:41:25 PM
10-4, I will report back tomorrow. Thanks again!



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Reply #22 on: October 14, 2022, 03:27:14 PM
I actually had a chance to check on these tonight. Lucky (maybe the wrong word) for me, the LED was already out before I started checking voltages. The problem LED is the one soldered onto pin A3. The issue appears to be with terminal 5. Here are my voltage readings now:

1. 81.2
2. 165.9
3. 0
4. 165.6
5. 148.5



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Reply #23 on: October 14, 2022, 07:04:57 PM
Measure the voltage at A3.  If it's around 12V, the LED is damaged.  A workaround for this is to connect a wire between A3 and A8 to restore operation.

If the voltage is 0V, that means the connection at A4/A5 isn't solid and needs more attention. 

If it's something else, be sure to let us know.

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Reply #24 on: October 15, 2022, 03:40:12 AM
It’s measuring ~.89 V - so about 0. Would that imply needing to touch up A4/A5 then?



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Reply #25 on: October 15, 2022, 04:59:00 AM
Are both halves of the 12AU7 glowing?  It is most likely that the solder joint at A4/A5 is loose.

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Reply #26 on: October 17, 2022, 04:02:37 PM
It looks like the tube is fully illuminated, but I do have the top of the chassis upside down while I’m working on the undercarriage, so I don’t have the best view. I touched up A4/A5, but terminal 5 is still reading ~150V. Any other thoughts where this extra voltage could be coming from? I’d also be happy to take a picture of A4/A5, but I’m pretty confident in that soldering now.



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Reply #27 on: October 17, 2022, 04:05:02 PM
Also, A3 is still measuring about 0.6V. So that would imply that the issue is still with A4/A5 based on one of your previous replies. I will provide a picture of those connections.



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Reply #28 on: October 17, 2022, 04:05:29 PM
What's the DC voltage at terminal A2?

The excess voltage is there because the tube isn't conducting.

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Reply #29 on: October 17, 2022, 04:19:43 PM
Ah, makes sense. Here is a new photo of the connections on that socket - specifically A4/A5 shown. I will check on the voltage of A2. Side note, what is all of that orange/brown stuff? I never noticed all of it until I started working on the underside of the chassis again recently. As far as I know it isn't affecting performance at all, just looks messy/dirty & I'd like to clean some of it off if possible. Unsure if it's excess solder that's fallen off my iron while working maybe?