Output Capacitor Upgrading Questions

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Offline Strikkflypilot

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Reply #225 on: May 12, 2014, 10:07:12 AM
Thanks.

Guess Ill order me some of them Mundorfs:)

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Reply #226 on: May 12, 2014, 11:22:03 AM
Done. Now the wait ::)

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Reply #227 on: May 13, 2014, 09:08:12 AM
I have done some research now.
I understand that these Mundorf film capacitors are supposedly
not polarized.
Nevertheless some people seem to agree upon that the outer layer should be connected toward the amplifier end and the inner end towards the output for the least possible noise.
Do any of You know how You can tell which side is which?
I do not possess an oscilloscope.

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Reply #228 on: May 13, 2014, 09:26:36 AM
If its any help this is a post I had remembered seeing which was said to originate from Mundorf.

"In general the outer foil of Mundorf capacitors is on the left hand side.
So the flow of the signal should be same as the flow of the text."

"Capacitors with SUPREME winding technology are wound fully symmetrically
and hence directivity-free (see: www.mundorf.com/Supreme.pdf)."

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Reply #229 on: May 13, 2014, 09:58:45 AM
Thanks Jamie!

Yes, that definitely helps.
It also fits with "a german way" to do things. Very systematic.
I know, I lived there for 7 years.

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Reply #230 on: May 13, 2014, 10:40:45 AM
My RTI caps are the same with the signal in the direction the text is read so in on left side and out to the right.

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Reply #231 on: May 28, 2014, 08:16:33 PM
Does anyone know which of the affordable film caps are the smallest? I'll be short on space and want the smallest films possible. So far it seems like it's the 100uF Janzen or JFX caps.

Also, how do you order from the JFX cap's website? It's so archaic. I didn't even see any prices.



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Reply #232 on: May 28, 2014, 10:05:03 PM
Does anyone know which of the affordable film caps are the smallest? I'll be short on space and want the smallest films possible. So far it seems like it's the 100uF Janzen or JFX caps.

Also, how do you order from the JFX cap's website? It's so archaic. I didn't even see any prices.

The Erse Pulse are the exact same size as the JFX and I believe made by the same company. The JFX go in with ease by the way, If space is restricted you could always consider fitting a smaller value capacitor 75, 80, 90uf

I have some jfx fitted in mine.

http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php/topic,5284.0.html

 

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Reply #233 on: May 29, 2014, 03:20:57 AM
Yeah, the Erse caps were going to be the ones I purchased, but they're out of stock and back-ordered according to the website. I sent Erse an email a week ago and still haven't heard back.  :(

First the 100uF Axons disappear, now the 100uF Erse. Dumb luck for me I suppose.

According to documents online the Erse caps appear to be 6mm longer than the JFX caps anyway, so JFX it is.

How did you order your JFX caps and how much were they if you don't mind me asking?
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Offline JamieMcC

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Reply #234 on: May 29, 2014, 04:31:52 AM
I'm not sure where you are based but this is where I ordered my JFX from in the UK.


http://www.audiocap.co.uk/

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Reply #235 on: May 29, 2014, 04:41:44 AM
D'oh. I'm in the U.S...

Ahh screw it. I'm just going to run some 51uF Axons in parallel. The price is right and the size will be perfect.  ;D



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Reply #236 on: May 29, 2014, 04:59:41 AM
I did see some 100uf pre owned Solen's on ebay in the US

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Reply #237 on: May 29, 2014, 05:58:21 AM
D'oh. I'm in the U.S...

Dollars work on those sites, they are just worth less.

Shoot!  I order from the USSR, Hong Kong, China & Taiwan.  Why not someone who almost speaks the same language?



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Reply #238 on: May 29, 2014, 06:55:56 AM
Oh, it has nothing to do with patriotism. It has to do with price! I'm a cheapskate. :P

I ended up ordering four 51uF Axon caps for what will probably be about $45 shipped. The size ended up working well too leaving me the necessary room to place a pilot light and relocating the power switch towards the front of the chassis.



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Reply #239 on: June 03, 2014, 09:26:17 AM
Another quick question, I know these big polypro caps are bipolar/axial so there's no real positive or negative.

However, I read somewhere around this forum that while they are axial there is a sort of traditional "positive" and "negative" end going the direction of the text left to right where the foil starts or something like that.

Is there any merit to this and if so would the left or right be the "positive" end?

Edit: nevermind. The info I was looking for was 8 or so posts above mine. I'm having one of those days today.  :P
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