New preamps?

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Offline Chris

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Reply #15 on: November 05, 2011, 03:20:43 PM
Thank you Paul, yep a high end DHT OTL pre  "The Nooner" (So good , you have to return home for lunch, not for the misses, but to listen to your BH GEAR!!!) is not an easy task do well,  but IF you guys decide to do it, it will be superb I am sure... good luck , take your time.... thanks guys... and I can just hear the H.S. intern explaining to the class, "and yeah after a Quickie, my next project will be to work on my Extended Foreplay with Enhanced Sex of course"..... Doc, you are going to send the poor kid straight to the principals office!!.... :)
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Reply #16 on: November 16, 2011, 01:16:34 PM
One channel of the 300B preamp is up and running this afternoon. Wow. The system is gettin' some hair on its balls. Shawn will be cranking out another channel, hopefully to be completed by tomorrow so we can listen to them at the meeting on Saturday.

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Reply #17 on: November 16, 2011, 02:30:30 PM
Awesome!!

Xavier Cortes


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Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 04:49:23 PM
Wow, wish I could make it to the meet just to hear this!

Transformer coupled output?

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Reply #19 on: November 16, 2011, 06:10:18 PM
Direct out, no transformers.  :^)

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Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
Holy Cow, exactly what I had in mind as my ultimate preamp, a 300B DHT OTL.... just a question, will the 300b's last longer than if they were in am amp?



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Reply #21 on: November 17, 2011, 05:51:30 AM
The 300B plates are dissipating only about 6 or 7 watts. They ought to last a long time.
We have noticed a bit of microphony, but it seems like it will be controllable as we only hear it when we thump the chassis. Doesn't seem to be picking up enough vibration from the speakers to be a problem. Shawn had the second channel about 30% built by last night, so I hope to report about the stereo pair this afternoon.

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Reply #22 on: November 17, 2011, 04:40:17 PM
Second channel had this mysterious hum, that sounded to me like a ground loop. Shawn and I spent two hours trading out nearly every part of the bad channel with the good channel in frustration and then, finally, I realized that one of the three traces I was supposed to cut on the power supply PC board in order to mod it for this application was not cut and hence causing - you guessed it - a ground loop. Palm print on forehead. Before we left tonight we got it fixed and fired up both channels, playing some our favorite vinyl demo tracks with the Tube Phono and active step up prototype.

Holy s**t! It's not just a bigger badder lower midrange as one would expect. The bass is big and bad too, the midrange resolution is crazy good and it's like the power output of the system has gone up maybe a factor of 10. This is a keeper, and a very satisfying result of my spending the last year or so trying to come up with the ultimate version of my "low output impedance/no transformers/no cathode followers" line stage. Thanks to PJ for putting up with my theories over the past year and cooking up circuits based upon them, including this one.

You guys who have Paramounts, start saving your pennies. This circuit is a match made in heaven.

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Reply #23 on: November 17, 2011, 04:50:07 PM
I just unwrapped a new piggy bank... :)

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Reply #24 on: November 17, 2011, 05:10:43 PM
OK, so now you are telling me I need to save for the DAC, the Paramounts, AND the 300B pre amp?  Done...I'm officially saving for all three....I don't need to shop around anymore for anything! Congratulations, Doc!!!

John

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Reply #25 on: November 17, 2011, 05:58:06 PM
This will be a great addition to my Paramount set up!  Can't wait, the saving has begun!


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Reply #26 on: November 17, 2011, 06:54:22 PM
Will this preamp have any provision for headphones as well?

I assume it's unlikely unless they're high-impedance cans?



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Reply #27 on: November 18, 2011, 05:45:35 AM
Yeah the output impedance is a bit high relative to most headphones. And adding an output transformer to lower the output impedance is going to reduce the gain, so you might find you need a second stage to get enough gain from your source. Next thing you know, you have designed Paramount instead of this preamp.

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Reply #28 on: November 18, 2011, 08:08:12 AM
Some very cool stuff brewing up in Poulsbo!
I can't wait to check it out.

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Reply #29 on: November 19, 2011, 02:40:45 PM
Sounds like the "ULTIMATE Foreplay" to me...... I know we are only talking about matching it up with BH gear, and  I know amp matching with a DHT OTL pre can be difficult, what amps (impedences etc.) would be a bad match do you think, in other words, could this amp be used as a "generic" reference pre with SS amps, OTL tube amps, I even have a 1000 watt OTL hybrid amp... I  know the best combo is to match it to YOUR amps, I guess i just want to know how flexible it would be as a generic reference pre also? thank you very much.....
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