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Offline Grainger49

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Reply #30 on: September 07, 2013, 05:05:10 AM
A Care Package arrived this week.  I had ordered two pair of caps two months ago.  I forgot, completely forgot. 

I am now burning in two TFTF V-Caps, they are due off on the 22nd.  Then into the Eros!
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Reply #31 on: September 07, 2013, 05:59:46 AM
Quote from: Grainger49 on September 07, 2013, 05:05:10 AM
A Care Package arrived this week.  I had ordered two pair of caps two months ago.  I forgot, completely forgot. 

I am now burning in two TFTF V-Caps, they are due off on the 22nd.  Then into the Eros!

You're in the deep water with the big kids now. :)

The world was made for those not cursed with self-awareness.

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Reply #32 on: September 07, 2013, 06:02:56 AM
Quote from: Grainger49 on September 07, 2013, 05:05:10 AM
A Care Package arrived this week.  I had ordered two pair of caps two months ago.  I forgot, completely forgot. 

I am now burning in two TFTF V-Caps, they are due off on the 22nd.  Then into the Eros!

Grainger

What value capacitor did you go with?

Deb

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Reply #33 on: September 07, 2013, 07:32:36 AM
Rob,

Well, I was making money then and it was a weak moment.


Deb,

0.47uF.  That is the design value for the last stage; same as the Seduction.  The values delivered, there have been two different values I am aware of, are a upgraded film Solen caps.  Upgrade sonically from the brown metalized Polypropylene film caps delivered in the Seduction. 
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Reply #34 on: September 13, 2013, 10:10:33 AM
I check the connections to the TFTF caps every day.  The two cats sleep in this room and they are awful about messing things up.  So far, so good.
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Reply #35 on: September 13, 2013, 06:43:45 PM
I should have warned you about the catnip impregnated caps...John
 

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Reply #36 on: December 16, 2013, 03:45:24 PM
Bump.   ....you need to finish the story :)

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Reply #37 on: December 27, 2013, 12:13:34 PM
Sadly... I have not done a comparison yet.  The Caps are burned in and ready.  But I have many other things, house/personal, that have come before my listening. 

Maybe soon.  I'm sick as a dog and not ready to do anything physical.
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Reply #38 on: December 27, 2013, 01:17:20 PM
I put the 0.47uF TFTF in my Eros (tape) and am very happy with the results.

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Reply #39 on: December 29, 2013, 11:17:14 AM
Quote from: Grainger49 on December 27, 2013, 12:13:34 PM
Sadly... I have not done a comparison yet.  The Caps are burned in and ready.  But I have many other things, house/personal, that have come before my listening. 

Maybe soon.  I'm sick as a dog and not ready to do anything physical.

Well keep us posted when you do get to them ;)

..and get well soon!

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Reply #40 on: January 04, 2014, 02:23:03 PM
I move the V Cap Teflon's from my Eros tape to the Tube Phono replacing a pair of Auricaps. The difference was immediate and I'm kicking myself for not doing it earlier. The Auricaps are great but I'm a detail guy and the Teflon's seem to get  a little more out of what's already there.

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Reply #41 on: March 21, 2014, 12:08:12 PM
I'm starting a new Eros build (stock first, of course), but have a pair of .47uf audio grade film capacitors that I want to try as well. To clarify, it looks like the design value for the output stage caps is .47uf as per Grainger's post, the parts checklist & schematic show 1.0uf and the included kit caps are 1.5uf. Am I correct in assuming the .47uf would work fine, just changing the bass rolloff point somewhat? Thanks in advance.

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Reply #42 on: March 21, 2014, 12:17:14 PM
Oops, Sorry, forgot to add my name to my initial post.
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Reply #43 on: March 21, 2014, 12:45:10 PM
Yes, your statement about the low frequency performance is correct.

At the time that we put out the Eros, we had the 1.0uF Solen capacitor in our inventory for the SEX amp of that era.  When selecting the coupling cap for the Eros, we simply used the 1.0uF Solen because it was already in the inventory and it is a nice sounding cap.

Currently, the SEX parafeed cap is 1.5uF, so that ships with the Eros as well.

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Reply #44 on: March 22, 2014, 06:40:05 AM
To add a bit here - the output stage of Eros is the same as Seduction (now Reduction). The original Seduction had a 0.47uF cap, which could work with load as low as 15Kohms, but with a trace of deep bass loss, -3dB at 22.5Hz. With Eros, we wanted an upgrade in performance and parts, and the 1.0uF Solen seemed appropriate.

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