HD800 mod - wow

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on: May 02, 2013, 12:02:17 PM
Well I guess I'm about a year late to the party, but I just did Tyll Hertsens' "Anaxilus" mod to my HD800s. Wow, color me impressed. Tyll is a totally together dude, and his rigor in experimentation shows it -

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/diy-modification-sennheiser-hd-800-anaxilus-mod-page-2?page=1

If you have HD800s, just do it. Takes all of 15 minutes, it's elegant, and it's reversible in about 2 minutes if you don't like it. With the HD800 treble peak tamed and some break in of the balanced cable (made from Mogami mini mic cable with a Neutrik 4 pin XLR) the Mainline is really starting to sing.

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Reply #1 on: May 06, 2013, 10:48:23 AM
I was about to return my HD800s until I found out about and tried this mod.  There is a supposedly better variation that Anaxilus came up with, and another even better measuring variant on the way.  I am really loving them now with the S.E.X. 2.1, and can't wait to see how they would do with the Mainline.  Too bad you are West Coast.  It would be great to have you come to Chifiunifi in June in Chicago.

Resonessence Concero -> Bottlehead S.E.X. 2.1 -> HD800


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Reply #2 on: May 06, 2013, 10:55:31 AM
A cable upgrade is worthwhile too. I remember being very impressed with the way a Cardas balanced cable opened up the midrange at RMAF, and the Mogami seems to be doing the same thing. It's not as big a thing as upgrading an HD600 cable, but on our rig there does seem to be a hint of veiling in the stock HD800 cable that can be improved upon.

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Reply #3 on: May 07, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
I've been meaning to try this for ages.  Did you both of you go with the 2mm creatology foam that Tyll ultimately recommends in the guide at the end of his article?

Mike M.


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Reply #4 on: May 07, 2013, 03:04:15 PM
Yup, but you might want to wait until we try the Anax 2 mod. Hope to do so this week.

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Reply #5 on: May 07, 2013, 04:27:27 PM
Thanks - will do!  Looking forward to hearing your take on the differences.

Mike M.


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Reply #6 on: May 09, 2013, 01:56:45 PM
Yup, Anax 2 is nice. I did a slight hybrid. I already had Tyll's upgrade installed, which uses a thinner ring of felt over foam, rather than the Anax 2 wide foam only. I just put the piece of shelf liner in around that. It definitely gets some of the positive aspects of HD600s and 650s back in the lower mids, without losing that really open top end.

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Reply #7 on: May 10, 2013, 09:19:55 AM
Hi Doc,

Did you use normal shelf/drawer liner that one can get from Walmart, etc.?  I think I have some of that somewhere that I can use. 

Resonessence Concero -> Bottlehead S.E.X. 2.1 -> HD800


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Reply #8 on: May 10, 2013, 09:23:30 AM
PB picked up some tool drawer liner from Harbor Freight:

http://www.harborfreight.com/18-inch-x-72-inch-mesh-nonslip-drawer-liner-67055.html

I think it's all pretty much that same stuff.

PB brought his stock 800s in today so we can do some A/B

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Reply #9 on: May 10, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
OK, I have PB's stock HD800s and my modded pair running on the Mainline.

Both are really great. The modded pair definitely has a more well filled in midrange to my ear. That extends to the upper bass, giving the modded pair a bit more bass punch as well as warming up vocals. And cymbals are more calm without losing the marvelous decay.

It's kind of as if you are sitting farther away from the musicians with the stock cans and the modded ones get you up close, like you are at one of the tables right by the stage, or maybe standing near the musicians as they play in the studio.

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Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 12:42:46 PM
Okay! I've got almost all the stuff around the house to do this mod at no additional cost. 

All I need now is a spare $1500 for the HD800s.

I guess that's making some progress...

Bob Trancho


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Reply #11 on: May 18, 2013, 07:32:27 AM
I installed the first Anax mod on my 800's a while back and I've been really happy with it. Since I'm kind of a treble head, it wasn't really a make or break change for me and I loved them stock too.
I'll give Doc's modified Anax ll mod a try and make a report here once I get a handle on the changes. I've got tons of that shelf webbing around here already.

steve koto


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Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 09:50:48 PM
Didn't have a chance to pickup shelf lining like I had hoped this weekend, but I took a stab at the original anax mod this evening.  Really enjoying the change at present!  Frankly, I'm wishing I'd tried it sooner.

The reduction in upper-mid glare is really nice on tracks with aggressive treble instruments - and for gaming too.

Mike M.


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Reply #13 on: August 02, 2013, 07:46:03 AM
Hi Doc, Could you kindly explain how you built your balanced headphone cable with the Mini Mogami cable. I do have both the mini 3 conductor and quad Mogami cables on hand. How is the 4 pin XLR wired up? Which wire goes to which pin. Also where can you source the HD800 connectors?

Also could you kindly describe the difference between the sound of the Crack and Mainline. I initially ordered a Crack kit, but changed it up to a Mainline. One of the main attractions was the balanced headphone output as well as the switchable impedance which will let me use the amp with other types of headphones. The HD800 is my main can though. Currently running with a NuForce Icon, so I am excited to see how the Mainline will improve things. Any insights will be appreciated.



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Reply #14 on: August 02, 2013, 08:30:50 AM
ALO audio sells the connectors. 

The 4 pin XLR is wired the same as an AKG K1000.
1 - left channel +
2 - left channel -
3 - right channel +
4 - right channel -


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