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on: August 11, 2013, 10:18:22 AM
My Crack is now 95% complete and operational! I have to replace the power switch (as explained in my other thread) and I still need to stain and satin poly my base.

But I've got my headphones plugged in and music is playing! Before I post the pictures though, I have a few issues/questions I'm hoping for some feedback on...

#1 When I did the voltage check per the instruction manual, all of my numbers are 25% lower across the board than those published in the manual. Is this OK?

#2 There is a background "hum" that, while masked by music playing, is easily audible without music. I hear it with the volume knob at "zero" and it is the same loudness with all of my headphones - low impedance (Koss KSC75) and high impedance (Senn HD 800).

#3 I notice some channel imbalance (right side is louder) and I can only use about 1/4" of the volume knob travel before it gets too loud. Are these issues normal?



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Reply #1 on: August 11, 2013, 10:22:48 AM
And my pictures...

(https://www.head-fi.org/image/id/4905432/width/900/height/900/flags/LL)

(https://www.head-fi.org/image/id/4905435/width/900/height/900/flags/LL)

(https://www.head-fi.org/image/id/4905455/width/900/height/900/flags/LL)

(https://www.head-fi.org/image/id/4905456/width/900/height/900/flags/LL)

(https://www.head-fi.org/image/id/4905457/width/900/height/900/flags/LL)

(https://www.head-fi.org/image/id/4905465/width/900/height/900/flags/LL)

(https://www.head-fi.org/image/id/4905466/width/900/height/900/flags/LL)
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Reply #2 on: August 11, 2013, 11:04:48 AM
#1 When I did the voltage check per the instruction manual, all of my numbers are 25% lower across the board than those published in the manual. Is this OK?

#2 There is a background "hum" that, while masked by music playing, is easily audible without music. I hear it with the volume knob at "zero" and it is the same loudness with all of my headphones - low impedance (Koss KSC75) and high impedance (Senn HD 800).

#3 I notice some channel imbalance (right side is louder) and I can only use about 1/4" of the volume knob travel before it gets too loud. Are these issues normal?

1 - What is your AC line voltage?  If you have ~110V AC, you may find lower voltages. 
2 - This is not normal, I noticed you painted your chassis, if you've insulated the metal to chassis interfaces on the terminal strips and the grounding lug by the IEC socket, then you will end up with a noisy Crack.  I would loosen these connections, scrape the paint off, then reconnect them.
3.  There is some channel imbalance with the stock potentiometer at lower volumes (see the FAQ sticky).  You can lower the signal level coming into the Crack to counteract this. 

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Reply #3 on: August 11, 2013, 11:11:37 AM
#1 When I did the voltage check per the instruction manual, all of my numbers are 25% lower across the board than those published in the manual. Is this OK?

#2 There is a background "hum" that, while masked by music playing, is easily audible without music. I hear it with the volume knob at "zero" and it is the same loudness with all of my headphones - low impedance (Koss KSC75) and high impedance (Senn HD 800).

#3 I notice some channel imbalance (right side is louder) and I can only use about 1/4" of the volume knob travel before it gets too loud. Are these issues normal?

1 - What is your AC line voltage?  If you have ~110V AC, you may find lower voltages. 
2 - This is not normal, I noticed you painted your chassis, if you've insulated the metal to chassis interfaces on the terminal strips and the grounding lug by the IEC socket, then you will end up with a noisy Crack.  I would loosen these connections, scrape the paint off, then reconnect them.
3.  There is some channel imbalance with the stock potentiometer at lower volumes (see the FAQ sticky).  You can lower the signal level coming into the Crack to counteract this. 

-PB

1. Yes, I do have 110 VAC. Glad to hear it's nothing to worry about.

2. I did paint the bottom of the plate but I thoroughly scraped the paint off around every hole that the terminal strips are bolted to. What about the RCA jacks? I read somewhere that I shouldn't use the plastic washers on the underside? I did use them...

3. I hate to do this (reducing dynamic range in theory) but if I must, I will.



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Reply #4 on: August 11, 2013, 11:14:59 AM
1. Yes, I do have 110 VAC. Glad to hear it's nothing to worry about.

2. I did paint the bottom of the plate but I thoroughly scraped the paint off around every hole that the terminal strips are bolted to. What about the RCA jacks? I read somewhere that I shouldn't use the plastic washers on the underside? I did use them...

3. I hate to do this (reducing dynamic range in theory) but if I must, I will.

I'd love to know who/where it is written not to use the bottom plastic washers.  Not using them will result in ground loop hum.

Dynamic range is not reduced by this method, this is another common misconception, that would be implying that a potentiometer acted as a compressor, which it does not. 

Can you check the resistance between terminal 3 and #8 ground screw at the rear of the chassis?

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Reply #5 on: August 11, 2013, 11:15:27 AM
Almost forgot. Here's the final picture with new power switch and volume knob...

(https://www.head-fi.org/image/id/4905809/width/900/height/900/flags/LL)



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Reply #6 on: August 11, 2013, 11:19:10 AM

I'd love to know who/where it is written not to use the bottom plastic washers.  Not using them will result in ground loop hum.

Dynamic range is not reduced by this method, this is another common misconception, that would be implying that a potentiometer acted as a compressor, which it does not. 

Can you check the resistance between terminal 3 and #8 ground screw at the rear of the chassis?

Zero resistance between ground screw and terminal 3



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Reply #7 on: August 11, 2013, 11:56:23 AM
I noticed in your build photo that the white washers on the bottom sides of the RCA jacks aren't present, is that correct?

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Reply #8 on: August 11, 2013, 12:33:53 PM
No, they are there. I read that blurb (wish I could remember where) about not using them after I had already installed them. I left them there because it didnt make sense to me to remove them.

Could my hum have anything to do with moving that wire to 14U (to reduce noise) as instructed in the revised manual?
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Reply #9 on: August 11, 2013, 12:43:57 PM
It may be worth moving that wire to be sure.

Otherwise, I'd leave the Crack on overnight to let the tubes cook a bit, sometimes that can help.


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Reply #10 on: August 11, 2013, 01:23:59 PM
Thanks Paul, I will definitely try that. I also have anoer set of tubes on the way so maybe that will help. I notice that I get a "tuning fork" type sound when I gently tap any part of the amp, if its related...

And I want to thank you for all your advice. I never would have attempted this build if I hadn't heard the Crack at the last BHQ hosted head-fi meet.



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Reply #11 on: August 11, 2013, 03:35:36 PM
And I want to thank you for all your advice. I never would have attempted this build if I hadn't heard the Crack at the last BHQ hosted head-fi meet.

Well, if you're ever in the neighborhood, feel free to bring your amp by and we can look it over!  Sadly, I was out of town for the Headfi meet  :-\

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Reply #12 on: August 11, 2013, 03:51:34 PM
Thanks. If I can't figure it out on my own, I will do just that - and maybe pick up a Speedball for good measure!

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Reply #13 on: August 16, 2013, 01:42:37 PM
I got back from my trip and my new tubes were waiting for me! The good news is that the microphonics I was hearing with the original tubes is now gone with the new ones. The bad news is that my 60 Hz "hum" is still present. I retraced the ground from point to point and checked resistance with a multimeter and I can't find any evidence of a bad connection/cold solder (I also checked resistance between the main ground screw and the headphone jack ground lead and it is zero). I even removed the main ground screw and scraped the metal underneath the washer to make sure it was making contact.

I think I'd like to take you up on your offer and come by to see if you can help me out...

Is there any particular day/time that's good?
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Reply #14 on: August 16, 2013, 02:21:03 PM
Next Monday or Tuesday are great, beyond that I'll be on vacation.

-PB

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