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Reply #15 on: December 04, 2013, 06:52:16 AM
here is my repair job.  the original builder took some strange wire paths.  but when I listened, it seems a that it might be hissing a bit less.  interestingly, when I crank the volume, I now hear the ground type hum equally in both channels, but less of it.

I think i am going to start by yanking my resistors I was using to give me more volume control turn.  I can always go back and put them in, but I'd like to get things out of the signal path.  plus, I didn't really have the proper resistors anyway.  and if they might add noise, I want them gone. 




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Reply #16 on: December 04, 2013, 06:56:21 AM
here?




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Reply #17 on: December 04, 2013, 06:57:56 AM
Looks good from that shot.

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Reply #18 on: December 04, 2013, 08:10:12 AM
removed the resistors.  I do wish the volume had more turn, but since there is no imbalance, I won't worry about it.

The ground type hum is there, but at a high volume level that I would never use.

Still a slight hiss after about 8 seconds.  would love to get rid of that, but not sure where to start on that.  It doesn't seem to increase with the volume control.

probably time to take some measurements.?



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Reply #19 on: December 04, 2013, 08:17:52 AM
The slight hiss is generally typical tube noise.  There are certain specimens that will fare better than others.  So removing the resistors ended up helping?

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Reply #20 on: December 04, 2013, 08:32:44 AM
I think that it did.  I had some unexpected improvements.  after I shifted and desoldered/resoldered those wires, the ground noise moved from the right channel, to equally in both.  But I thought that overall noise was less as well. I would not have thought just routing wires differently would do much.  It may have been the resolder as well, but whatever.  After I removed the resistors, the ground noise doesn't really become detectable until the volume is Really high.  so I'm just left with the hiss right now.  I would like to eliminate the ground type noise completely, but thats just my OCD.  I know its there, even though it doesn't effect general listening. 

The hiss I can deal with if thats just a tube thing.  have to fine one though that doesn't sound like there is a fly trapped in the right ear cup, and sitting next to a guitar amp that is feeding back.   lol. 

Would it be better for me to use the speedball wire that I originally asked about in this thread?  I can't imagine the radio shack wire being good, but maybe in doesn't matter in its placement.  referring to the page 19 correction.

"Page 19 -  you could change 2" wire from power trans terminal 4 to 22L at the bottom of the page to 3" and connect it to terminal 14U rather than 22L. It will work either way, but this may give a slightly lower noise floor. (This is mostly correct after 4/26 but manuals labeled 4/26/10 say mistakenly 15U rather than 14U)"





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Reply #21 on: December 04, 2013, 08:37:40 AM
The Speedball wire is very expensive, high quality wire, so I would recommend using that.

Wiring layout is pretty critical.

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Reply #22 on: December 04, 2013, 09:29:30 AM
ok, I'll use it.  I was just worried about the difference in thickness.  its an easy change out.
Thanks for all your help here.  Looks like the tube rolling forum is my next stop I think.