help with noise at startup volume turned down

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Offline Adrian

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I can't believe that having a zero volume hum is a design feature.  I can understand it before full warm up (I guess) but not continuous.
Anyone out there who can help with what I hope is an issue that can be addressed and not a necessary "evil" we have to live with?

I'm about a month away from installing the Speedball and am very interested in what to expect.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2014, 12:46:03 PM by Adrian »

Adrian C.

VPI Prime w/Ortofon Quintet Black MC/Rothwell MCL Lundahl SUT/EROS/Submissive (3 output mod)/Mainline/Crack - Speedball/S.E.X. 2.1 - C4S/S.E.X. 3.0 - C4S/Paramounts - Blumenstein 2.2 Mini-Max w/DOF mod -Senn HD600/Viso HP50/Focal Elear.


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I can't believe that having a zero volume hum is a design feature.  I can understand it before full warm up (I guess) but not continuous.

Yeah, it's been a little tough to sort out whether it is persistent in all cases, or goes away after the amp warms up. This is not a design feature, and has just popped up recently.  We are looking into this currently. 

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PB:  Thanks. I'm confident the Bottlehead family will not settle for mediocrity.

Adrian C.

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Reply #93 on: May 08, 2014, 09:41:02 AM
YEEHAW GUYS!!  I've solved my noise problem!!
I replaced all the parts on both the two small A & B boards and now my amp is dead silent!!!!
I have not even a warm up noise now :) no buzzing nothing. All my tubes are perfect.
These are the parts I used guys
2 X TE CONNECTIVITY / NEOHM - YR1B237RCC - RESISTOR, METAL FILM, 237R, 250MW, 0.1%
2 x STMICROELECTRONICS - 2N2907A - TRANSISTORS
2 x MJE350 High Voltage PNP Power Transistor
4 x HLMP-6000 Avago Technologies LED, Submin, Red.
I never replaced the 150k 2w resistors.
Question  though : Are the 237R resistors I used ok ?
also the  2N2907A transistors I used were a different make then old ones.
Is this ok? I've not done a voltage check yet.

Austin


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Reply #94 on: May 08, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
Yeah, those 237 Ohm resistors look like they are equivalent to what we supply, though we generally use 1/8 Watt parts.

Paul "PB" Birkeland

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Reply #95 on: May 08, 2014, 09:46:39 AM
great Paul thank you  :)  happy bunny now   :)

Austin


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Reply #96 on: May 08, 2014, 09:50:39 AM
We have worked out what is happening. PB will be pulling the divergent threads about this together and posting instructions. Basically the last batch of MJE350s we purchased has some that are out of spec. We have some in spec replacements on order and we will be able to supply them to anyone who has experienced the problem. It seems to be isolated to a few Speedball kits shipped in the past month or so, and if your kit is working fine the MJE350s should not be replaced.

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Reply #97 on: May 08, 2014, 09:58:05 AM
Its working great now thank you  :)   

Austin


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Reply #98 on: May 08, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
OK, I think I have all the relevant threads merged here.

Essentially, we have been working with a supplier for quite some time now who offered the ON Semiconductor MJE-350 at a reasonable price when bought in bulk.  We had been purchasing bulk lots for quite some time, with great results, but the last batch we received were from a different manufacturer that we are not familiar with.  Unfortunately, the supplier did not notify us that they made this substitution. 

To that effect, some MJE-350's in recent Speedball kits may produce this defect where hum is encountered at 0 volume level.  To remedy this situation, we can offer a replacement pair of MJE-350's.  If your Speedball does not exhibit these symptoms, you would not want or need to replace these transistors. 

If you are in a hurry to patch this up, you can purchase MJE-350's from your favorite local seller.  A Motorola, ON Semiconductor, ST Microelectronics, Fairchild, Texas Instruments, or even an NTE-39 are going to work great!  For those who have Speedballs or other kits using MJE-350's on order, we will not be putting these parts in your kits. 

We do appreciate all of you letting us know that this was an issue, giving us some time to determine the nature of the problem, and we look forward to providing assistance to remedy this issue.

-PB

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Reply #99 on: May 08, 2014, 10:08:45 AM
Hi Paul,

Any difference between the MJE350 and MJE350G?

Thanks

(another) Paul.



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Reply #100 on: May 08, 2014, 10:10:56 AM
pduk I'm also in the UK and i got mine from ebay ..this seller
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301163832980?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Austin


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Reply #101 on: May 08, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
Thank you Mr Hornet :) Hope you are enjoying the weather today.



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Reply #102 on: May 08, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
What you on about! It was raining all day  ;D

Austin


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Reply #103 on: May 08, 2014, 10:20:59 AM
And pduk get some solder wick if you haven't already got some , I used this stuff fast deilvery as well
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271136778656?var=570136615144&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
And your welcome  :)

Austin


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Reply #104 on: May 08, 2014, 10:39:03 AM
An MJE-350G is just a lead free MJE-350.

Paul "PB" Birkeland

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