Crack stopped working and voltages are not correct [solved]

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Offline deaton

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I finished my Crack build a couple of nights ago and both the resistance checks and voltage checks were fine. I fired up the amp and listened to it for about an hour and everything sounded great. I flipped the switch today, two days later, and the amp would not turn on. The tubes weren't glowing and the LEDs on the bottom of the A socket were not lit.

I did a resistance check and all checked out. I did a voltage check and was getting very high voltage readings on the terminals that should have voltage on terminal 1-6 as shown below. I wasn't getting any voltage on terminals 7 and 9. When I got to terminal 13 and 15, they were also reading high. On a second reading of terminal 15, I must have shorted something with the probe as there was a pop and spark at the cap.

Terminal    voltage
1            224
2            230
3             0
4           229
5           225
6             0
7             0
8             0
9             0
10             0
11             0
12             0
13           230
14            0
15           229


After the spark, I repeated my voltage measurements and now, all the voltages are low and falling as I continue to probe through the board. They started at about 11V, and by the time I got to the end of the measurement, the terminals were all showing 0 volts.  Terminals 7 and 9 were still showing zero when others were showing less than 1V.

   1      11.2
2      10.4
3      0
4      9.4 and  dropping
5      8.4 and dropping
6      0
7      0
8      0
9      0
10      0
11      0
12      0
13      3.8
14      0
15      0.5
20      0
21      0.6
a1      0.7
a2      0
a4      0
a5      0
a6      0.5
a7      0
a9      0
b1      0.4
b2      0
b3      0
b4      0.4
b5      0.4
b6      0
b7      0
b8      0

Any ideas what might be wrong?  I've checked out all the diodes with the meter and they all check fine. Caps are all oriented correctly. Everything was working great for an hour!

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Offline deaton

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Reply #1 on: July 06, 2014, 11:47:51 AM
I pulled the fuse after the second set of voltage measurements and found that I had blown the fuse when I got the spark testing terminal 15. That explains the dropping voltages as the caps slowly discharged. But I'm still perplexed as to why the voltages were so high on the first reading and am not sure which part of the circuit to check.



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Reply #2 on: July 06, 2014, 01:43:42 PM
After replacing the blown fuse and measuring all voltages again, this is what I'm seeing:

Terminal         Measured           Reference (from manual)
1                    224      75-90
2                    230      170
3                    0      0
4                    229      170
5                    225      78-90
6                     0      0
7                     0      100
8                     0      0
9                     0      100
10                     0      0
11                     0      0
12                     0      0
13                   230      170
14                     0      0
15                   229      185
20         0
21                    232      206
a1                    226      90
a2                     0      0
a4                     0      0
a5                     0      0
a6                    226      90
a7                     0      0
a9                     0      0
b1                    225      90
b2                    230      170
b3                     0      100
b4                     225      90
b5                     230      170
b6                     0      100
b7                     0      0
b8                     0      0



Offline Paul Birkeland

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Reply #3 on: July 06, 2014, 02:18:23 PM
The tubes are made to glow by the pair of twisted red and black wires that leave power transformer terminals 4 and 5, then go to B7/B7, then to A4/5/A9.

If both tubes don't glow, then the twisted pair going between the power transformer and B7/B8 isn't properly connected.  (Or you may have accidentally cut one of the wires coming out of the power transformer)

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Reply #4 on: July 07, 2014, 12:06:46 PM
That seemed to be the issue. Thanks for the advice. The solder joint on terminal 5 of the transformer was bad. Reworking that seems to have done the trick.