New Eros build - Resistance numbers off

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Offline rude52

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on: January 26, 2014, 01:21:14 PM
Hello all,

Completed my new Eros today.  All boards went in well and no obvious cold joints.  When I checked resistance numbers, tabs 1 thru 5 are off.
1 - 47 (supposed to be zero)
2 - 120 (60)
3 - 0 (0)
4 - 120 (60)
5 - 47 (0)

6 thru 30 all good
Pins on the RCAs good

Any thoughts? 
Thanks,
Rich




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Reply #1 on: January 26, 2014, 03:06:04 PM
Got it!! 

Should have thought it through.  No good ground connection and realized that it was picking up 47 Kohm off of input.  Mis-wired T5U to T19 instead of T20.  All good - AND found a wire that snapped off to one of the C4S boards.  That hookup wire can be a bit brittle.

On to voltages

Rich



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Reply #2 on: January 26, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
The hookup wire isn't really that brittle. What happens is a lot of wire strippers nick the wire right where they cut the insulation. That creates a stress point and the wire cracks at the nick.

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Reply #3 on: January 26, 2014, 04:41:56 PM
Thanks Doc,

Yes, I think that you are correct.  Seemed to be little nicks whether I used a stripper (gauge wasn't quite right) or knife. 

Voltages all fine, LEDs lit, so I plugged it into the system.  Sounds great!  Too late for an extended session but first thing I noticed was the bass extension.  I am using a Denon DL110 cart so the extra gain is nice too.  No buzz, hum or anything I and I am in a high RFI environment.  Looking forward to a LOOONG session to put it through its paces.

I can't say enough about how clear the instructions are and the build is so intuitive.  I cannot imagine how difficult it is to design the circuit, get it optimized AND THEN figure out stepwise how to explain how to build it up for non-mechanicals like me!

Thanks for another great kit.  Will think about retiring my modded Foreplay 2 for a BeePre soon.

Rich



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Reply #4 on: January 27, 2014, 08:58:50 AM
Dan,

What gauge do you suggest.  My Ideal stripper, the fancy one, didn't go small enough.  I used 24 gauge on an Ideal T-Stripper (45-121) and had two wires break.  Is the Teflon coated wire metric?
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Reply #5 on: January 27, 2014, 09:06:53 AM
The Teflon insulated wire is 22ga.


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Reply #6 on: January 27, 2014, 10:36:04 AM
On 22 AWG on the cheaper Ideal stripper it peels off some of the insulation.  I checked this afternoon before posting since I didn't remember what gauge I stripped the wire with.

What does Bottlehead use for stripping when repairing?
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Reply #7 on: January 27, 2014, 10:40:56 AM
I use a stripmaster, the guys like those cheapass little plier-like ones that you can adjust with a set screw.

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Reply #8 on: January 27, 2014, 01:27:33 PM
I like the cheap one myself.   After you get used to it, it works like a champ.

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Reply #9 on: January 27, 2014, 02:50:05 PM
My Stripmaster didn't go to 24 ga.  But the lowest also didn't take a thing off of the wire.  There are two models and I think I got the one with the smaller die.  Maybe not.

I had one of the cheap adjustable ones back in the 70s.  I cut more wire than I stripped.  I was awful at it.  So they are not for everybody.
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