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Offline deltaray

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My Crack+SB has been working fine over the past year with many tube rolling adventures.

However one evening I came across large popping sounds in both channels before leaving channel imbalance with weak to no sound on the Right channel.

Everytime I power it on now starts with popping sounds, followed with weak and gradually fading sound on the right.

These are the current Voltage reading after doing a reheating of the solder links:
OA: 50.9V
OB: 80.5V
G: 1.9mV
B+: 97.3V

I'm attaching pictures showing the led lights, noticed that 01 at R2A doesn't shine as bright as the rest anymore..

The amp was working fine with no imbalance, capable of driving my 600ohm dt880 to deafening levels. So am definitely bummed out it can't work now, just that i'm not sure what is wrong/to check.

Any guidance is greatly appreciated  :).
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Re: CrackSB worked fine for one year till now. Need help troubleshooting
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2019, 06:51:43 AM »
Can you remove the 6080 tube and run the amp with just the 12AU7 tube and measure the voltages on the small PC board?  It will help to start there to know that those are OK.

If B+ is down around 90V, you need to not run the amp for very long, as the power supply dropping resistors are going to get hot pretty quickly.  Try to limit your time powered up to about a minute. 
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Re: CrackSB worked fine for one year till now. Need help troubleshooting
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2019, 02:37:53 PM »
Greatly appreciate the help Paul :)

Measurements of the small PC board with only 12au7 tube are as follows:
OA: 78.9V
IA: 242V
B-A/B 0.1mV
IB: 242.1V
OB: 80.8V

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Re: CrackSB worked fine for one year till now. Need help troubleshooting
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2019, 02:47:10 PM »
OK, that's helpful.

With the amp off, clip one probe onto a ground terminal (I like the little bit of bare wire between the ground tabs on the RCA input jacks) and measure the DC resistance to the metal tab on each TIP50C.

Your measurements with and without a 6080 point to one of the TIP50 transistors touching its heatsink.  This can happen from debris sneaking in there, or if the shoulder washer or mica insulator aren't properly positioned.
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Re: CrackSB worked fine for one year till now. Need help troubleshooting
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2019, 09:28:48 PM »
Both metal tabs read 0 ohms. do i try to clean the insulator in between the heatsink and the tip50? both parts are soldered onto the board already

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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2019, 05:28:00 AM »
Can you post some photos of the mounting of the TIP50s and their mounting? 
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Re: CrackSB worked fine for one year till now. Need help troubleshooting
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2019, 03:06:41 AM »
Is this correct?

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2019, 05:29:23 AM »
I would remove the hardware from both TIP50s and bend them away from the heatsinks, then recheck the resistance between ground and the metal of the TIP50s.
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Re: CrackSB worked fine for one year till now. Need help troubleshooting
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2019, 02:45:44 PM »
Is this correct? Both metal parts of the TIP50s read zero.

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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2019, 03:33:33 PM »
OK, so it's not an insulation issue.  Can you pull the 6080 and recheck those resistances?  If they are still 0, then can you unscrew the big PC board and post a photo of terminals 6-10?
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Re: CrackSB worked fine for one year till now. Need help troubleshooting
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 02:31:14 AM »
Resistances still zero.

Here are the pics of 6-10. Do let me know if i need to retake clearer shots.

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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2019, 04:50:54 AM »
OK, I don't see issues around the socket.

Remove just the white wires from the big PC board, then recheck those TIP50 metal tab resistances once more.

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Re: CrackSB worked fine for one year till now. Need help troubleshooting
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2019, 12:19:56 PM »
By remove you mean unsolder them right?

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2019, 12:27:33 PM »
Yes, heat up the joints where they connect to the board, then slide them out and leave them poking up in the air.
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Re: CrackSB worked fine for one year till now. Need help troubleshooting
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2019, 04:29:37 PM »
Finally managed to squeeze in time to do the solder removal to take out those joints.

Yes both resistance shows zero as well.

Could it be that the LED itself is spoilt?