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Issue with A Side C4S Board A [resolved]
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June 22, 2021, 01:14:33 PM
Hi,
Have an issue with the voltage through 32U after attaching the board.
Let me preface by saying I accidentally broke the 215 1/8 watt resistor from A3 to the center socket pin when working on A4. I had a replacement resistor to hand but although the markings are the same, the size of the resistor is larger than the ones supplied (see pic) so it could simply be that i used the wrong resistor.
My issue is the voltage at 32U measures about 98V. By turning the potentiometer I can get it up to 100V.
On the D side 46U initially read 158V but was easily adjusted to 175V.
Here are some readings I took
A Side D Side
IA 508v 508v
OA 295v 296v
32U ~98v
46U 158v adjusted up to 175v
On A board
Kreg on A side = 6.88v
Kreg on B side = 6.75v
voltage across 4.99k Resistor = 2.47v
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 22, 2021, 02:08:47 PM
Turn the blue trim pot ten turns clockwise, then measure Kreg A. Now turn the trim pot ten turns counter-clockwise and remeasure the voltage on Kreg A. Let us know what those voltages are.
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 22, 2021, 02:25:18 PM
Turning 10x clockwise, kreg went down to 4.95v.
Turning back 10x counter-clockwise took the kreg back to 6.88v
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 22, 2021, 05:22:39 PM
Can you post a photo of the top of the board in question?
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 23, 2021, 04:11:12 AM
Thanks for helping Paul.
I've attached some pics of the board.
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June 23, 2021, 05:47:23 AM
I would try reflowing the solder joints on the MJE5731A transistors. You'll know when they are heated enough because the solder will wick through the board to the other side.
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 25, 2021, 08:31:21 AM
I reflowed the solder on all the transistors. Still getting the same reading.
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June 25, 2021, 04:44:59 PM
If the blue trim pot is turned to be 0 ohms, you'll get the voltage that's across the R3 resistor that's next to it. You have reported this as 2.47V, but you haven't gotten that at your Kreg output.
I suspect either the Kreg to Breg wire has an issue or you aren't turning the pot ten full turns.
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 26, 2021, 05:48:42 AM
You are quite right to question my counting skills
but my screwdriver has marking on one side so pretty sure I did it right this time.
I redid just in case but got the same result.
The reading at BREG and KREG are the same so guessing the connection is ok.
Is there anything to be gained from switching the boards over?
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 26, 2021, 06:39:55 AM
Sure, you could swap the boards side to side to see if the issue follows one of the boards.
What I would suggest though is to set your meter to read impedance, then attempt to adjust the blue trim pot so you see 0 ohms between Kreg and the "R" pad on the 431. You can do this with the amplifier off.
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 28, 2021, 06:11:10 AM
The ohm reading between the R side of 431 and KREG was 696. I was able to adjust it down to 0.3ohms but not all the way to zero.
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June 28, 2021, 06:25:00 AM
OK, 0.3 ohms is plenty close to 0, that 0.3 is just your meter leads.
If you power the amp up with the pot set that low, you should see 2.5V coming out of Kreg, can you confirm that?
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 28, 2021, 07:53:44 AM
Reading at KREG is 2.476v
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June 28, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
OK, what's OB?
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Re: Issue with A Side C4S Board A
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June 28, 2021, 04:06:55 PM
OB is 96.5v
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