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Offline sl-15

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Moreplay versus Foreplay 3 and some questions
« on: August 21, 2021, 10:58:55 AM »
Hi everybody, I have been using a Foreplay 3 since 2008 and upgraded to the extended version (EF3) eventually.
I am still using it every day and am pretty happy with the sound.
I am curious about the Moreplay and if it has any sonic advantage over the EF3.
Are there any current Moreplay users that have some insight?
And onto the technical question does the Moreplay invert phase like the Foreplay does?
Thanks, Best, Stefan
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Re: Moreplay versus Foreplay 3 and some questions
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2021, 01:39:05 PM »
I do not know if this helps because I do not have a Moreplay but I had FP3 and just recently made 2 FP3 type preamps with some twists, one of which is extended. I love them. The Moreplay may use a cathode follower as the output so it would be phase inverting as the FP3.
But do not despair because the human ear doe's  not have the ability to  discern the difference between compression and rarefaction.
what this means is as long as the speakers are wired in phase your good.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2021, 02:37:25 PM by Thermioniclife »
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Re: Moreplay versus Foreplay 3 and some questions
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2021, 01:48:03 PM »
Hi Stefan,

We have met in a couple of events, I have represented Bottlehead at Burning Amp. Are you still living in the East Bay? I have a Moreplay that I can bring over so you can hear the difference. Let me know. I have been vaccinated, had a Covid test which I tested negative, and have been very careful concerning social distancing.

Cary Chin
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Re: Moreplay versus Foreplay 3 and some questions
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2021, 03:21:39 PM »
Hi Cary, yes I remember you from the audio shows and your chocolate chip cookies of course. And I am still in Berkeley. Thank you and I might take you up on that offer at one point. I am vaccinated too.
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Re: Moreplay versus Foreplay 3 and some questions
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2021, 04:29:34 PM »
Hi everybody, I have been using a Foreplay 3 since 2008 and upgraded to the extended version (EF3) eventually.
I am still using it every day and am pretty happy with the sound.
I am curious about the Moreplay and if it has any sonic advantage over the EF3.
The Moreplay has lower overall gain, so it doesn't need the generous padding at the input, and there's a bit of an advantage there.  If you have an old Foreplay III with failing Sweetest Whispers, a Moreplay will also take care of that quite handily :)

And onto the technical question does the Moreplay invert phase like the Foreplay does?
All of our active linestage preamps that we've ever sold are inverting.  If you're worried about it, you can flip your speaker connections at your amp(s), which themselves may also be inverting...
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Re: Moreplay versus Foreplay 3 and some questions
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2021, 09:10:12 PM »

All of our active linestage preamps that we've ever sold are inverting.  If you're worried about it, you can flip your speaker connections at your amp(s), which themselves may also be inverting...

 ... in which case you will also need to flip your your speaker [cable] connections at the speaker [terminals].  :P

I would also be interested in hearing any opinions on comparison between Moreplay and the Smash [with Up and Quiet]?

Cheers

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Re: Moreplay versus Foreplay 3 and some questions
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2021, 05:51:37 AM »
Hi Cary, yes I remember you from the audio shows and your chocolate chip cookies of course. And I am still in Berkeley. Thank you and I might take you up on that offer at one point. I am vaccinated too.

Please feel free to PM me whenever you want to hear the Moreplay, I live in SF.

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Re: Moreplay versus Foreplay 3 and some questions
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2021, 06:07:18 AM »
Thanks for the input everybody. I guess I do not see a clear advantage in getting a Moreplay right now although I like the simplicity of the layout and the lower gain. Might have to do the jump to the BeePree2. But that would have to wait a bit longer. Best, Stefan.
stefan hampel
ortofon sl-15 with step-up, modded technics sl-1200mkII, seduction c4s, eros phono, extended foreplayIII, crack, pioneer spec4/mc225, sonus faber electa