Thanks, I ended up treating myself to a set of ZMF Atrium's for the Hollidays. Part of the appeal is the craftsmanship in them for me. The pads they came with were fine. To be honest, I was a bit disappointed in the sound at first. No problems and great with acoustic and strings in my opinion, but just fine outside of that. However, I just swapped pads and was getting really into rock music with them today. I have a few more sets of pads to try, but that was also part of the appeal of me. Maybe there was some burn in, I'm not sure but they were sounding better today then I have gotten them to in the past. We're going to have a local headphone meetup and one of us is bringing a pair of HD800S to compare with the Atrium's on the S.E.X 3.0 I built.