Upgrading Solens caps

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Offline bpiotrow13

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on: July 20, 2023, 06:40:25 AM
I would like to change stock Solens 3.3 uf caps in my Stereomour II. My initial thought was to go with Mundorf Evo Oil 3.30 uf. However i just noticed that the stock Solens are 630v whereas Mundorf Evo Oil 3.30 uf are 350 v.

The question is can i use Mundorf (350v) as a replacement for Solens or higher voltage caps are required? If so, what is the minimum voltage value required for the cap here?

Bogdan



Offline Paul Birkeland

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Reply #1 on: July 20, 2023, 07:01:53 AM
No, you really should use 600+V rated caps here.

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Reply #2 on: July 20, 2023, 08:00:05 AM
Understood, many thanks.



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Reply #3 on: July 20, 2023, 08:13:39 AM
Apologies, just want to be sure, does that mean 600v or above is fine? Or it should be above 600v?

I want to also upgrade the coupling cap, which is 0.1uF @ 630volts. I would like to go with Miflex 0.1 uf 600v. Is that fine? 



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Reply #4 on: July 20, 2023, 08:30:05 AM
600v or greater, for both caps.

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Reply #5 on: July 20, 2023, 08:32:04 AM
I was same Page you are. Reading previous posts the voltage should not be below 600v.  I put miflex 0.1 600 V and 3.3 clarity MR which are 630 btw. Others might probably confirm

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Reply #6 on: July 20, 2023, 09:51:13 AM
Many thanks All. I have already ordered Miflex 0.1 uf/600 v.

As for the other caps (to replace Solens 0.33 uf) does it need to be 0.33 uf precisely? Or it can be e.g. 0.47 uf?

I am looking for something that would make the sound warmer and see not all brands make 0.33 uf caps. In any case my initial thoughts were Jupiter Copper Foil Paper & Wax, Duelund or Mundorfs but all recommendations welcomed.




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Reply #7 on: July 20, 2023, 11:01:28 AM
Watch It! 3.3 not .33

3.3uF often already huge size

Daniel
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Reply #8 on: July 20, 2023, 11:33:49 AM
Good point, 3.3 uf of course.



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Reply #9 on: July 20, 2023, 11:54:35 AM
For a warmer sound, PIO caps are the obvious choice, but they will 1) cost you plenty and 2) be so big and heavy you'll have to modify your chassis to get them to fit.

You might try Audyn Cap Plus or Jantzen Z-Superior caps.  To my ears, both are warmer and more transparent than Solens.  They're also reasonably priced and not huge.

Larry


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Reply #10 on: July 20, 2023, 01:00:44 PM
Anything between 2.5uF and 5uF will work pretty well. There are slight audible differences in the lowest frequencies, but the speaker's impedance variations and the room acoustics are larger factors.

Paul Joppa


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Reply #11 on: July 20, 2023, 03:11:50 PM
If you're a little more tolerant to risk than PJ, I think you could get away with a 450V rating for the 0.1uF coupling cap.

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Reply #12 on: July 20, 2023, 11:42:59 PM
Many thanks again, i think i know all the parameters.



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Reply #13 on: July 23, 2023, 04:05:10 AM
Encouraged by Your kind responses I have a couple of more questions on Stereomour upgrade.

I have already put in 0.1 uf Miflex caps. Too early to said something definite, but the sound seems to be more 3d and there seem to be more bass.

The next will be Obbligato premium film in oil 4.7 uf (3.3 uf is not available). I have seen Paul recommending this in one of the threads a couple of years ago.

Now my question is whether it is worth to upgrade further. One of my friends suggested changing the signal cables (going from RCA input to selector switch) and power cable (on/off switch – power supply socket). The stock cables are a bit thin, I wonder if changing the cables into thicker ones would make a difference.

I would like to avoid making the mods just to make them, so would be grateful for Your recommendations. I would [refer the sound to be warmer/fuller, but my stereomour already plays nice, surprisingly with only 90 db speakers I made using Sonido full range drivers.



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Reply #14 on: July 23, 2023, 05:48:33 AM
The 120V power input wiring should be at least 30 AWG (it's far beefier than that in the stock kit).  Wire the same diameter as human hair should do the job for the RCA jacks to selector switch, as the current will be well under 1mA flowing through it.

Paul "PB" Birkeland

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