Eros problems

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Offline Wade Winnett

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on: October 12, 2024, 05:51:49 AM
I recently finished the Eros phono preamp and listened with utter joy for two days until (noise/crackling) reared its ugly head on the A/Black channel.  All Ohm/voltage checks through  the entire build were consistent and well within spec.  Diodes were always immediately and well lite at all checks. The (IB) on the C4S board now showed 235 VDC.  I followed the trouble shooting section of the build manual.  I inspected but never saw an obvious solder issue.  I have removed all boards at least twice in order to inspect and reflow. Most point to solder points were re soldered. When I was dissembling I was able to recheck good voltage on page 40.  I was starting to run out of patients  but  page 55 voltage check confirmed 235vdc. All tubes are NOT heating(illuminating).  I did one last Ohm/voltage check.  Ohms are still good. Voltage numbers are my first and last check.  IA:216.8-297.5, IB:216.4-297.3,OA:164.3-289.2,OB:161.6-295.2, OC:96.6-185.8, OD:96.7-66.8, OKA:97.5-40.2,OKB 97.9-64.4, OKC: 1.412-1.795, OKD: 1.660-1.511. Diodes on the C4S are working, diodes on the shunt regulator are not illuminating.  Fuse was never blown. This is my third Bottlehead amp kit with my Moreplay and Crack with capacitor upgrades.  I also have an Akitika GT-108 power amp, and Zaph audio ZRT2 speaker kit under my belt with few issues.  I have also made my own power and RCA cables. I know that I have a beautiful and exquisite sounding system with the Eros the final piece.  Any help or advice is more than welcome.
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Offline Paul Birkeland

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Reply #1 on: October 12, 2024, 09:27:48 AM
I was starting to run out of patients  but  page 55 voltage check confirmed 235vdc. All tubes are NOT heating(illuminating). 
You can't have 235V on the voltage checks on page 55 without the tubes being illuminated, so one of these statements is incorrect.


 
IA:216.8-297.5
IB:216.4-297.3
OA:164.3-289.2
OB:161.6-295.2
OC:96.6-185.8
OD:96.7-66.8
OKA:97.5-40.2
OKB 97.9-64.4
OKC: 1.412-1.795
OKD: 1.660-1.511
I think the first thing I would do is to focus on why the regulator output has popped up.  You can't have 235V on the check on page 55 and not have 235V at IA/IB (whichever one that 235V fed).  If the tubes are not illmuniating, what are the DC voltages at the + and - pads of the 6.3V output on the power supply board? (They should be around 50V and 56V)

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Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 12:37:14 PM
So I found a big problem: The 10uf Tantalum capacitor nearest to the 6.3 vdc on the power supply board out is blown apart.  Like a little bomb went off inside it.  Not sure when that happened.



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Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 12:42:55 PM
That can happen if they are put in backwards, but this is not what happened to your cap.  If you look above it in your photo, the center leg of the 1085 regulator is not adequately soldered.  One or more of these legs coming loose could put excessive voltage across that cap, which will cause it to explode.

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