Waiting for the price of that pricey cap/wire/whatever to come down?

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Offline earwaxxer

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Understood Granger... We are talking about caps for "mere mortals" - That esoteric shit is not going to happen for most of us. When you have about $5K in your whole system your not going to spend $1K on a couple of caps... I'm not anyway (I have to keep saying that over and over).

Eric
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Some day I got to spring for a pair of V-caps...John

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I'm with ya John.. I figure, if I can get Granger to bite on V-Caps and he thinks they are worth it, I will probably give it a go.

Eric
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I can't comment on the differences between V-caps and other caps, because Paul Birkeland built each of my BH Customs pieces(phono, line, & poweramp) with V-caps from the get go.

However, Doc and I compared my linestage with the BeePre/BeeQuiet at BHeadquarters and found it was pretty close. Each piece had its strengths. My feeling is that circuit and tubes are critical, and parts come in second as determinants of sound. One day, perhaps I will have Paul build me a BeePre with boutique parts with the proceeds from my linestage; but for now I will not part with what I have, as it makes wonderful music with the Orcas+Subs.

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I guess that makes it official - PB likes V-Caps!

Eric
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Offline corndog71

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I will probably give it a go.

Come to the dark side.  It's just a couple hundred bucks plus change.  8)

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Offline Grainger49

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I guess I am afraid that I will like them and want them in everything.  That would be 4 pair at $200+ each.  About the cost of a pair of Orcas.



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Naaah, Grainger; Get your second pair of Orcas and increase the power handling. I do so enjoy your posts.

Cheers, Hank in Eugene



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Thanks Hank!

My Orcas and other-sourced sub are filling my room at volume levels I can barely take these days.  Working where hearing protection is mandated by OSHA is not doing me any favors.


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Offline tsingle999

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Grainger. 8 x 0.1 tftf vcaps would run about $400 total. The tftf line seems a bargain now. I havent compared them directly to cutf but they have to be very close. I decided to go with the cutf in my main amp and tftf in the others.
Speaking of caps im burning in the clarity cap sa and pitting it against mundorf supremes. So far i like both but they def each have their own sound. Supremes are nice! Hard to pick a winner yet. Im only at 20 hours on these large 12uf caps.

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How much will the 10uF@630V Parafeed caps for my Paramours cost?  Only the interstage in the Paramours are 0.1uF.  The Foreplay output is 2uF and the Eros output is 0.22uF. 

I looked after my post.  There is no 10uF V-Cap Teflon.  The others would cost about $650.  Still more than I want to spend.



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True - V-caps do not come in large values. Thats kind of bumber. Every high end cap manufacturer has a crossover line that gos to high values. Even Duelund has a 10uF in any flavor you want if you have the cash! I guess its the nature of going with Teflon. Not sure how that works.

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Yea, I am afraid I'll like them. I was just looking thru my stash of coupling caps, didn't know i had so many. Pretty much  all of the Russian stuff, AN, PIO, Mundorf silver and a lot of the film/foils from the usual suspects. Now I just found some .12uf Silver Mica that i forgot about. got to be next up...John       

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I don't mean to sound like I'm hawking the V's.  But instead of worrying about liking the caps try to remember the last time you made a simple yet jaw-dropping improvement to your system.  How the music seemed clearer and more dynamic.  It exposed details you never knew were there in recordings you've heard hundreds of times.  Think about that when you reconsider the price.  I've only got 2 pairs of V-caps.  2 I bought new and 2 I got used.  I'd love to get more but dang they are expensive. :o 

Still, I'm happy with the ones I have and consider them reference-worthy.  There's still a bunch of brands I haven't tried.  The Clarity MR caps come very close to the V's but are perhaps a bit less forgiving.  The V's just sound great in every application I've tried them in.

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I don't mean to sound like I'm hawking the V's.  But instead of worrying about liking the caps try to remember the last time you made a simple yet jaw-dropping improvement to your system.  How the music seemed clearer and more dynamic.  It exposed details you never knew were there in recordings you've heard hundreds of times.  Think about that when you reconsider the price.  I've only got 2 pairs of V-caps.  2 I bought new and 2 I got used.  I'd love to get more but dang they are expensive. :o 

Still, I'm happy with the ones I have and consider them reference-worthy.  There's still a bunch of brands I haven't tried.  The Clarity MR caps come very close to the V's but are perhaps a bit less forgiving.  The V's just sound great in every application I've tried them in.

Lol, I bought 6 CuTF Vcaps in .1uf because I need 4 and I couldn't interest anyone in going in with me to get a better price.  I burned in 2 pairs of these bad boys for 5 days days solid and soldered them into place Audio Note Kit DAC and Pre replacing the Audio Note Copper coupling caps.   I knew there was going to be a difference, but dang...  I love it already, and they should get fractionally better and they get fully burned in.  Highly recommended!

Tick 

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