Resistance check problem [fixed]

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Offline chavac

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Reply #15 on: August 05, 2013, 04:50:49 PM
Ok this is what I got:
1  110
2  110
3  0
4  110
5  50
6  0
7  0
8  0
9  0
10  0
11  0
12  (negative probe)
13  110
14  0
15  110
16  0
17  0
18  40
19  40
20  0
21  120
22  0

A1  50
A2  0
A3  0
A4  0
A5  0
A6  0
A7  0
A8  0
A9  0

B1  110
B2  110
B3  0
B4  48
B5  110
B6  0
B7  0
B8  0

There was a pop when I tested 21, left a small black mark on the solder but nothing otherwise



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Reply #16 on: August 05, 2013, 04:54:33 PM
Do both halves of the 12AU7 glow?


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Reply #17 on: August 05, 2013, 04:57:29 PM
Yes



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Reply #18 on: August 05, 2013, 04:59:38 PM
Alright, well, the most likely issue is the unlit diode on the 12AU7 socket (I'm assuming there's no Speedball installed). 

One or both ends is not making a proper connection, which is allowing no current to flow (and thus terminal 5 isn't droping down as it should).

I'd carefully examine that diode and its solder joints.

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Reply #19 on: August 05, 2013, 05:21:10 PM
Correct there is no speedball. Resolder the LED's joints, no change. Replaced with one of the extras I had ordered and it lit up. Some changes to the voltages:

1  50
2  110
3  0
4  110
5  45
6  0
7  0
8  0
9  0
10  0
11  0
12  (negative probe)
13  110
14  0
15  0
16  0
17  0
18  40
19  40
20  0
21  120
22  0

A1  50
A2  0
A3  0
A4  0
A5  0
A6  50
A7  0
A8  0
A9  0

B1  50

B2  110
B3  0
B4  48
B5  110
B6  0
B7  0
B8  0
« Last Edit: August 05, 2013, 05:22:56 PM by chavac »



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Reply #20 on: August 05, 2013, 05:36:14 PM
Well done, your 12AU7 is now operating properly, both LED's must be lit at this point.

Now, the 6080 is being presented with a reasonable operating parameter, but it it sucking current like crazy!

Can you check that the 3K resistors are in fact 3.0K?

Next, triple check that the 100uF/160V caps are connected properly (striped sides out), and that the wires running to the headphone jack leave the outboard terminals (6 and 10) on the terminal strip?  If those wires were connected to 7/9, you would experience these issues (until the 2.49K resistors cooked).

Let me know if these suggestions are helpful, and especially if they are not.

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Reply #21 on: August 05, 2013, 05:55:17 PM
Hmm. Headphone wires appear to be correct to 10 and 6. AFAIK they two resistors are 3k (xicon p 10w 3k j).  And rechecked solder on all caps and location/orientation, all seem correct. Resoldered all four jointed, still no 6080 when I fire it up



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Reply #22 on: August 05, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
Ah, that's right, you had mentioned that the 6080 doesn't glow?

Does there happen to be white residue in the tube instead of silver residue?

Are you 100% sure the socket is properly oriented?

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Reply #23 on: August 05, 2013, 06:02:24 PM
Hmm. Yeah the 6080 doesn't lightup. Which part of the tube would have residue? I don't see any. And the way it's shaped it only fits one way. One thing I just noticed is it looks like the new led I just put in burnt out already/doesn't light up anymore.



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Reply #24 on: August 05, 2013, 06:04:09 PM
I think Paul meant is the socket itself properly oriented, not the tube within the socket. I believe the residue would form on the top of the tube, but Paul will correct me if I'm wrong.



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Reply #25 on: August 05, 2013, 06:06:33 PM
Adam is spot on, if the tube had leaked, the silver coating on the tube would begin to turn white.

Check the socket orientation, if it's off you could create some interesting problems.

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Reply #26 on: August 05, 2013, 06:09:42 PM
Double checked the orientation and appears to be correct with the slot facing the vent. I don't see any white residue at the top, just the silver cap. There does appear to be a metallic sheen around the bottom of the silver cap portion, but nothing I would call white.



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Reply #27 on: August 05, 2013, 06:22:28 PM
Can you post a pic of the octal socket on your Crack? (including the adjacent terminal strip)

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Reply #28 on: August 05, 2013, 06:46:07 PM
https://www.head-fi.org/g/i/903101/default/sort/display_order/
https://www.head-fi.org/g/i/903102/default/sort/display_order/
https://www.head-fi.org/g/i/903103/default/sort/display_order/

They were too large for the forum, so I just uploaded them onto my headfi gallery. Hope that's OK. Added one of the whole board in case I'm missing something obvious



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Reply #29 on: August 05, 2013, 06:56:24 PM
Can you remove the 6080 and repeat your voltage checks? (your build looks very good BTW)

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