changing volume pot

charger · 7257

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline charger

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 119
on: October 30, 2013, 03:57:26 AM
Hi to everyone

so I am going to consider to change volume pot of the stock Q with this one

http://www.shop.audiokit.it/OsWay/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=288659&osCsid=e7981b3d5c43d81282f0b1b17c36f166

is it the right value? 

Once I will get it I will ask you how to place it 

thank you
« Last Edit: October 30, 2013, 04:51:06 AM by Caucasian Blackplate »

Oppo 980H - PC - Arcam rDac- Bottlehead Quickie- Abletec ALC040 - Signal cables Atlas Element Integra-speakers cables Tellerium Q black-Martin Logan Motion 15


Offline Grainger49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 7175
Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 04:12:07 AM
J'ne parle Italiano!  I think that is right, my French is very rusty.  But three years of Latin in the 60s doesn't hurt.  I can read most of the page.

Nice of them to remove the fourth lug, it just confuses us.  I have used this type of Alps and it is a smooth sounding pot. I don't remember the pot value for the Quickie, but 100k or 50k seems to work with any Bottlehead product.



Offline charger

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 119
Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 06:23:31 AM
ok thank you , shall I just remove the old pot and  solder the wires in the same position as in the stock Q pot? 

Oppo 980H - PC - Arcam rDac- Bottlehead Quickie- Abletec ALC040 - Signal cables Atlas Element Integra-speakers cables Tellerium Q black-Martin Logan Motion 15


Offline Grainger49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 7175
Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 06:58:19 AM
   .  .  .   nd  solder the wires in the same position as in the stock Q pot? 

Well, maybe.  First turn the pot fully CCW, down.  See which lug the center lug is shorted to.  This is the ground lug, the center is almost always the wiper, input to the tube, and the other one is the one that gets the input from the input switch.

I'm just making sure you only have to do this once.



Offline charger

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 119
Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 07:17:44 AM
mmmm it's not so clear to me becouse of my poor english

Oppo 980H - PC - Arcam rDac- Bottlehead Quickie- Abletec ALC040 - Signal cables Atlas Element Integra-speakers cables Tellerium Q black-Martin Logan Motion 15


Offline Grainger49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 7175
Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 08:17:14 AM
Ok, when you get it, turn the volume pot all the way down, looking at the shaft that is counter clockwise.  Measure from the center pin of the new Alps pot to one then the other of the pins.  The one that is shorted, zero ohms to the center lug, is the ground.  That is like the right lug (as seen on page 22 of the manual) grounded to the input RCA plugs outer connector. 

If you and I are right in assuming the center lug will be the "wiper" those lugs go to terminal 1 and 5 like on page 23, second picture, of the manual.

Then that third lug goes to the selector switch's center terminals, one to the left side one to the right side.

Does this make better sense?
« Last Edit: October 30, 2013, 08:20:21 AM by Grainger49 »



Offline charger

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 119
Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 08:27:21 AM
ok when I will have the pot I will study better what you are saying , thank you

Oppo 980H - PC - Arcam rDac- Bottlehead Quickie- Abletec ALC040 - Signal cables Atlas Element Integra-speakers cables Tellerium Q black-Martin Logan Motion 15


Offline jimiclow

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 123
Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 05:20:27 PM
Here it is:


Bottlehead Stereomour with V-cap, Mundorf, Alps
SEX 2.1- Alps, Mundorf
Stock Crack
Reduction with Mundorf, Clarity caps
Schiit Asgard, Schiit Lyr
Technics SL1200mkII
Woo WA-6
Hoyt-Bedford speakers, Fostex T90A
LCD-2, HD600, ER4P, HF5, SR60i, DT990-600, DT770-32, HFI580


Offline charger

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 119
Reply #8 on: October 31, 2013, 12:38:56 AM
OH thank you, but can't understand what means wiper, if i put it in online translate it says those things on the car glasses for the rain " tergicristallo" in Italian . Can you explain better ? thank you

and another question , changin the pot can you hear an audible improvement ?

Oppo 980H - PC - Arcam rDac- Bottlehead Quickie- Abletec ALC040 - Signal cables Atlas Element Integra-speakers cables Tellerium Q black-Martin Logan Motion 15


Offline Grainger49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 7175
Reply #9 on: October 31, 2013, 12:50:38 AM
The wiper is the volume you select.  It is the part that moves when you turn the volume up and down.  It becomes the input to the amplifying stage.



Offline charger

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 119
Reply #10 on: October 31, 2013, 01:28:49 AM
ok so , from the wiper which wire starts ? where it goes in the tube pin? 

Oppo 980H - PC - Arcam rDac- Bottlehead Quickie- Abletec ALC040 - Signal cables Atlas Element Integra-speakers cables Tellerium Q black-Martin Logan Motion 15


Offline jimiclow

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 123
Reply #11 on: October 31, 2013, 03:17:27 AM
The wiper is the output and goes to the tube pin.

Bottlehead Stereomour with V-cap, Mundorf, Alps
SEX 2.1- Alps, Mundorf
Stock Crack
Reduction with Mundorf, Clarity caps
Schiit Asgard, Schiit Lyr
Technics SL1200mkII
Woo WA-6
Hoyt-Bedford speakers, Fostex T90A
LCD-2, HD600, ER4P, HF5, SR60i, DT990-600, DT770-32, HFI580


Offline Grainger49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 7175
Reply #12 on: October 31, 2013, 03:46:06 AM
I'm looking at the manual and the schematic.  Each wiper goes to pin 3 of the respective tube.  But, they travel through terminals 1 (right channel) and 5(left channel).  That is what I said in Reply #5 above.  That is seen on page 23 of the manual the first picture on the left of the page shows it clearly.

The input as shown in the picture above (thanks Jim!) goes to the selector switch.  That is the black wire and red wire from the selector switch to the pot shown on page 23, second picture down on the right.

The grounds, bare wires, go to the respective RCA jack outer conductor.  The left channel (on the right when upside down) is shown in the last picture on page 22.  The right channel is shown in the last picture on page 23.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2013, 03:48:04 AM by Grainger49 »



Offline charger

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 119
Reply #13 on: November 06, 2013, 10:26:51 PM
what would happen to the Q if I make a mistake soldering wires going to the wiper , to the inputs instead ?

Oppo 980H - PC - Arcam rDac- Bottlehead Quickie- Abletec ALC040 - Signal cables Atlas Element Integra-speakers cables Tellerium Q black-Martin Logan Motion 15


Offline Grainger49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 7175
Reply #14 on: November 07, 2013, 01:27:46 AM
If I understand your question the answer is you would have no volume control.  It would run wide open.