Kiwame Resistors

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Offline KMokc

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on: November 21, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
I have purchased a Quickie and want to upgrade the resistors. I have ordered Kiawme in the following:

Kit 1K - Kiwame 1K0 (2 watt)
Kit 4.02K - Kiwame 3K9 (2 watt)
Kit 475K - Kiwame 470K0 (2 watt)

Also Kit 2.2uF 250v caps - Obbligato Premium Gold 2.2uF 630v

Can someone chime in to make sure the purchased values are correct?

Thanks,
Kevin

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Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 03:35:42 PM
I'm not sure what the 1K0, 3K9, and 470K0 mean below, but the 1K, 4.02K, 475K, and 2.2 uF parts definitely match the parts list..  Hope this helps.

Dave



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Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 03:44:29 PM
You'll probably have a very tough time fitting 2 Watt resistors in there, but they will function in the circuit.

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Reply #3 on: November 21, 2013, 05:56:17 PM
Give it some time to break in, and by the time you get new batteries let us know what you hear!

Normally I restrict carbon comps to a few specific functions, but the Kiwames appear to be exceptionally well made and are reputed to give a slightly warmer, more relaxed sound.

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Reply #4 on: November 23, 2013, 08:04:08 AM
I thought it's also worth mentioning here that the resistors provided with the Quickie are Vishay/Dale RN55D series resistors.  These are military rated, very high quality metal film resistors that you will find in a great many $10,000+ Stereophile Class A rated tube preamps.  It does occur to me that the Kiwames may end up being a downgrade from what is provided with the kit, so YMMV.

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Reply #5 on: November 23, 2013, 09:08:36 AM
I thought it's also worth mentioning here that the resistors provided with the Quickie are Vishay/Dale RN55D series resistors.  These are military rated, very high quality metal film resistors that you will find in a great many $10,000+ Stereophile Class A rated tube preamps.  It does occur to me that the Kiwames may end up being a downgrade from what is provided with the kit, so YMMV.

-PB

IMO, really a matter of taste, not quality.  The Kiwames are as good or better, from a manufacturing stand point, as the Dales, PRP, etc.  Just a different flavor. They are definitely a bit warmer and I have never noticed in additional noise, even in my phono stage. I use them and like them!  So take my bias into consideration!

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Reply #6 on: November 24, 2013, 08:02:17 AM
The Kiwames are as good or better, from a manufacturing stand point, as the Dales, PRP, etc.

Dales carry a mil-spec rating, Kiwames do not.  Though this really doesn't translate into sound quality, it does translate into manufacturing quality control.

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Reply #7 on: November 24, 2013, 08:43:14 AM
The Kiwames are as good or better, from a manufacturing stand point, as the Dales, PRP, etc.

Dales carry a mil-spec rating, Kiwames do not.  Though this really doesn't translate into sound quality, it does translate into manufacturing quality control.

Or...there is simply no need for KOA to mil-spec them as they are purpose made for audio.  The Kiwames are rated 5%, but I have not found a deviation of more than 1% in those that I have used.  That is pretty good manufacturing tolerance and QA.  Mil-spec is simply that...built to the military specification, that does not, necessarily equal built better, just that it is QA'd to meet the spec so a manufacturer can bid.

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Reply #8 on: November 24, 2013, 08:47:49 AM
Or...there is simply no need for KOA to mil-spec them as they are purpose made for audio.

Hmm, I looked high and low on their website, and there's no mention of these resistors being made for audio.  They are simply listed as a high power/reliability carbon film resistor.

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Reply #9 on: November 24, 2013, 09:07:37 AM
Or...there is simply no need for KOA to mil-spec them as they are purpose made for audio.

Hmm, I looked high and low on their website, and there's no mention of these resistors being made for audio.  They are simply listed as a high power/reliability carbon film resistor.

OK...I yield...rephrase:
Or...there is simply no need for KOA to mil-spec them. They don't care whether or not they sell them to the military.

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Geary





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Reply #10 on: November 24, 2013, 10:38:36 AM
OK, guys, points made. Let's move on.

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