Grid chokes at the beepre output

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Offline slm

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on: October 10, 2014, 02:32:42 PM
Has anyone tried placing a grid choke at the output of the beepre ? Any thoughts on an appropriate sized output cap to match with it . Was thinking about replacing caps then thought while I have the hood up I have some high nickel magnequest grid chokes that might be fun to play with .........



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Reply #1 on: October 10, 2014, 02:59:27 PM
hmmm, not sure if this will work....

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Reply #2 on: October 10, 2014, 03:03:29 PM
Grid chokes at the output of the BeePre are not such a great idea. 

Grid chokes are intended to replace the grid to ground resistor on an output tube, with the idea that some grid current on transient peaks can be more easily drawn through a grid choke and with less bias shift.  They can also provide some reactive impedance that may exceed the original grid leak resistors in the bass region.

In the BeePre, it would be very difficult to drive the 300B that hard.

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Reply #3 on: October 10, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
Mikey has talked about this idea a few times :
"In terms of potential uses... our grid chokes are really quite flexible ............. and can even be used in some small signal (i.e., preamp) output stages where the output impedance is low enough and you don't need to make it any lower."

Or :
"In the past I've used LC coupling at the output of a preamp (in lieu of a small signal output xfmr

He has indicated it would increase detail and dynamics

What are the problems with doing this ?
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Reply #4 on: October 10, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Number one, not trusting the guys who designed the preamp. Spend your money and try it for yourself and please report your results afterward. Experimentation is half of the fun!

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Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 06:06:33 PM
One thing that grid chokes are good at is picking up hum from power transformers. For that reason alone I would consider them primarily for the power amplifier output tube grid, where the signal voltage is high.

There are no grids at the output of a preamp, so "grid choke" is a questionable term to use. The intent is to obtain a very high input impedance at the grid of a gain stage, thus not loading the driver stage and improving its distortion characteristic. Same effect as using a choke or current source plate load. Putting one at the output of a preamp is not as bad as installing a carburetor on the transmission of a car, but that's the analogy that comes to mind. If you want one at the line level, put it at the power amp input, rather than the preamp output.

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Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 06:17:45 PM
Thanks Guys

I have seen it mentioned a few times on magnequest forum , but will leave it alone....