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Offline Doc B.

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on: June 04, 2010, 06:58:38 PM
Tonight there is one guy on AA saying a power transformer must be 36" away from the rest of the circuit (a poster who for years I have suspected of retrieving all of his vast experience from Wikipedia), and another guy saying that mesh plate tubes can catch electrons better because the mesh is so fine ( I can't even comment, because I start giggling every time I think about it). In case anyone wonders why I decided to disassociate myself from AA...at some point reading posts on AA stops being amusing and gets more like being around a person with an uncontrollable tic.

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Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 07:12:52 PM
Maybe a little electron net placed around the transformer, to catch stray electrons, preventing from interfering with the circuit (nets are meshy? right?)



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Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 09:24:09 PM
LMAO!  I've got some little baggies of pebbles for you to tape to your cables!  They're the "fruity" ones, if that makes a difference!

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Reply #3 on: June 05, 2010, 12:55:03 AM
Doc,

Same thing on AC -- so many people there who are just total consumers of marketing crap and haven't got a clue what the hell they're talking about, plus lots of cool-aid drinkers who will buy the "AC product of the week" just because so and so said it was the "best" he ever heard, etc.

One of my favorite recommendations was a guy asking for advice on a low foltage transformer (9v or so secondary) and the the guy who responded by saying that he'd always recommend a double-C core transformer, and included a link to an Audio Note technical blurb on the autionotekits web site.  I really had to restrain my self from asking him for a pointer to a listing for a double-C core filament transformer.  This guy is always full of sage audio advice, apparently has nearly unlimited money to spend and freely admits he has no technical background.

Of course there are also some really smart and genuinely helpful and experienced people there too, but they seem to be dwindling in numbers.

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Reply #4 on: June 05, 2010, 01:45:16 AM
Tonight there is one guy on AA saying a power transformer must be 36" away from the rest of the circuit (a poster who for years I have suspected of retrieving all of his vast experience from Wikipedia), and another guy saying that mesh plate tubes can catch electrons better because the mesh is so fine ( I can't even comment, because I start giggling every time I think about it). In case anyone wonders why I decided to disassociate myself from AA...at some point reading posts on AA stops being amusing and gets more like being around a person with an uncontrollable tic.

LOL, very funny!  Thanks I needed that.

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Reply #5 on: June 05, 2010, 02:24:28 AM
My Momma used to say, "Ignorance is Bliss!"  I have added, "And there are a lot of blissful folks out there."

By the way, the uncontrollable tic could be Turette's. 
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Reply #6 on: June 05, 2010, 08:41:45 AM
I didn't see those posts yet.  I've been spending the last hour reading the voltage devider(sic) thread. 

Yes, it is funny and entertaining for awhile, then you stop and ask yourself 'where did the last 20 minutes of my life go???'

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Reply #7 on: June 05, 2010, 08:53:14 AM
Forgive me, I just spent 8 hours in the hot, hot sun at a Hamfest, what are sites AA and AC?

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Reply #8 on: June 05, 2010, 09:53:59 AM
I had a hard time not reaming that guy harder than I did... 

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Reply #9 on: June 05, 2010, 10:21:09 AM
Forgive me, I just spent 8 hours in the hot, hot sun at a Hamfest, what are sites AA and AC?

Audio Asylum and probably Audio Karma.



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Reply #10 on: June 05, 2010, 10:32:17 AM
Thanks Grainger, too much sun, not enough Water...

The joy of music should never be interrupted by a commercial - Leonard Bernstein

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Reply #11 on: June 05, 2010, 11:22:45 AM
AC = audio circle

http://www.audiocircle.com

-- Jim

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Equitech balanced power; uRendu, USB processor -> Musette DAC -> 5670 tube buffer -> Finale Audio F138 FFX -> Cain and Cain Abbys near-field).

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Reply #12 on: June 05, 2010, 12:09:38 PM
Signal to noise ratio ... always an issue. Is a forum still ok when it has 90% noise, and I don't mean this one?

I don't mind the idiotic posts all that much, but I tune out when I can no longer find the truffels, because there is just too much blither and bile.
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Reply #13 on: June 05, 2010, 04:10:46 PM
I tuned out of AA after a flamefest where several members, engineers in the know mind you (at least while they were online), swore that there was no need to build speakers that could play below 50hz. Apparently the physical length of the wavelengths are so long below that frequency that you would have to sit over 30 feet away to hear them. Furthermore, you can only hear something at the exact moment the wavelength is at 1 cycle or more. In addition, you imagine you hear below 50hz because you have heard it before, other places than your listening room of course, and your brain fills in all the information below 50hz from memory. Claiming to have heard below 50hz was to no avail, just your imagination. Why my imagination could hear a test tone between 10 and 49hz, and identify it without knowing before hand what was being played, was not explained.



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Reply #14 on: June 05, 2010, 05:55:58 PM
My lungs can hear 10 hz, just crank up the volume enough and breathing becomes impaired! ;)

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