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Offline Sugar Man

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Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« on: May 15, 2016, 04:27:48 PM »
I'm putting Jupiters into my Stereomour II and see notations on the caps for outside foil.  I found posts discussing this on the Stereomour, but the connections are different.  PJ says that outside foil (OF) should go to source. So for the Stereomour II, could someone please verify if I got this right?

3.3uF  1U (OF) to 21U
         20U (OF) to 40U

0.1uF  4U (OF) to 7U
         14U to 17U (OF)

I also have a pair of 0.47uF Mundorf Silver Oils for my Eros, but they have no identifier.  Can they go in any way?
Mike "Stein" Ayotte

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Elekit TU-8600 300B w/Lundahl Trannies
Audio Note R Zero II Phono Pre
Rega RP8 w/ Audio Note IQ3 (MM)
Audio Note E Speaker Kit-04 w/ AlNiCo drivers

Stereomour II w/ Jupiters
Eros w/ Mundorf Silver Oils
Paraglows (retired)
Quickie w/ PJCCS
Blumenstein Orcas & Subs

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Re: Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2016, 11:24:11 PM »
The Mundorf Supreme range are series wound so there is no outer foil as such.
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Re: Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2016, 03:55:49 AM »
Looks to me like "0.1uF  4U (OF) to 7U" needs to be "0.1uF  4U to 7U (OF)" instead.

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Re: Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2016, 06:18:36 AM »
Looks to me like "0.1uF  4U (OF) to 7U" needs to be "0.1uF  4U to 7U (OF)" instead.

Thanks for the response gstitt.  The reason I went my direction was that the caps at 4U and 17U are connected to the 2a3, as are the caps at 1U and 20U. But I wouldn't put my 2 cents up that I'm right.  :o
Mike "Stein" Ayotte

Current Gear:

Elekit TU-8600 300B w/Lundahl Trannies
Audio Note R Zero II Phono Pre
Rega RP8 w/ Audio Note IQ3 (MM)
Audio Note E Speaker Kit-04 w/ AlNiCo drivers

Stereomour II w/ Jupiters
Eros w/ Mundorf Silver Oils
Paraglows (retired)
Quickie w/ PJCCS
Blumenstein Orcas & Subs

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Re: Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2016, 07:16:29 AM »
Yes, 4U and 17U are 2A3 connections. If we want outside foil connected on the source side, then that would be on the 12AT7 connections, which are at 7U and 14U. So, on second thought that would be:

0.1uF  4U to 7U(OF)
          14U(OF) to 17U

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Re: Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2016, 07:43:22 AM »
Okay, now I get it (I think).  So it's input (source) --->12AT7 --->2A3 --->output (speakers).  So you are correct, thus:

3.3uF   1U (OF) to 21U
          20U (OF) to 40U

0.1uF   4U to 7U (OF)
          14U (OF) to 17U

Thanks!

« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 01:40:31 PM by Sugar Man »
Mike "Stein" Ayotte

Current Gear:

Elekit TU-8600 300B w/Lundahl Trannies
Audio Note R Zero II Phono Pre
Rega RP8 w/ Audio Note IQ3 (MM)
Audio Note E Speaker Kit-04 w/ AlNiCo drivers

Stereomour II w/ Jupiters
Eros w/ Mundorf Silver Oils
Paraglows (retired)
Quickie w/ PJCCS
Blumenstein Orcas & Subs

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Re: Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2016, 07:54:12 AM »
Sure thing! I just recently ordered my Stereomour II kit, and this topic will come in handy for my assembly too, so thanks for bringing it up.

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Re: Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2016, 05:52:26 AM »
Here is a picture with the caps correctly installed (I hope!) :o

Mike "Stein" Ayotte

Current Gear:

Elekit TU-8600 300B w/Lundahl Trannies
Audio Note R Zero II Phono Pre
Rega RP8 w/ Audio Note IQ3 (MM)
Audio Note E Speaker Kit-04 w/ AlNiCo drivers

Stereomour II w/ Jupiters
Eros w/ Mundorf Silver Oils
Paraglows (retired)
Quickie w/ PJCCS
Blumenstein Orcas & Subs

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Re: Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2016, 02:31:04 PM »
Those caps are 1.5uF, but should be 3.3uF. Do they work?
- Sam

Rega P3-24 (w/AT 150MLX) w/Groovetracer upgrades / C4S Seduction / FLAC -->J.River -->DSD256 -->Gustard X20 / Stereomour II / Klipsch Forte II w/Crites upgrades / C4S S.E.X. 2.0 +Nickel MQ Iron / Speedball Crack / Sennheiser HD600 w/Cardas cable

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Re: Stereomour II Outside Foil Cap Alignment Question
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2016, 07:34:33 AM »
Sam, just saw this.  In another thread, where the builder was considering a 4.7uF ClarityCap, PJ discussed the "best" capacitance for the Steromour II:

In theory (which assumes an 8 ohm resistive load in the deep bass 10Hz-40Hz) region, the larger cap will improve the extension but reduce the available power in the deep bass region. My nominal optimum, which is my take on the best compromise, would be 2.5uF. But anything from half to twice that is pretty reasonable - the effects are modest enough that listening is a better guide than theory ...

I went with the 1.5uF because I was experimenting with cap upgrades in my Eros and Stereomour II, plus I have a Seduction.  So I put a 0.47uF Mundorf Silver Oil in the Eros and then the 1.5uF Jupiter in the Stereomour.  The Jupiters made an immediate improvement, but I'd still like to experiment with a 2.2uF or 3.3uF.  Seems like I had more bass with the 3.3uF Solens.  If I go with the higher value Jupiters, I may move the 1.5uF to the Eros, and put the 0.47uF Mundorfs in the Seduction.  All good fun, but capacitor break-in kinda messes with the mind/ears.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2016, 07:37:45 AM by Sugar Man »
Mike "Stein" Ayotte

Current Gear:

Elekit TU-8600 300B w/Lundahl Trannies
Audio Note R Zero II Phono Pre
Rega RP8 w/ Audio Note IQ3 (MM)
Audio Note E Speaker Kit-04 w/ AlNiCo drivers

Stereomour II w/ Jupiters
Eros w/ Mundorf Silver Oils
Paraglows (retired)
Quickie w/ PJCCS
Blumenstein Orcas & Subs